Friday, November 22, 2013

JoeShow Rips 'Shooting Bigfoot' and FB/FB

I wasn't able to stay up and Watch Joe Mastroianni's last night because of my work schedule but I did listen to The Joe Show when I got home. The show was highly entertaining and Joe & guests were full of energy.

The review of 'Shooting Bigfoot' by Joe and Jimmy was not a positive one for "Footers" by any stretch of the imagination. Joe is definitely not a fan of Tom Biscardi and I don't think "piece of shit" is a term of endearment. My impression of Biscardi from Joe's perspective is that Tom is an arrogant self promoting prick and I don't think many would disagree with that assessment.
   Both film watchers liked Dallas and Wayne but thought their ideas were a bit out there but they were just being Dallas and Wayne. No harm, no foul.

    Attention then turns to Rick Dyer, "The Laziest Bigfoot Tracker in the World". Apparently Rick didn't go very far from his tent and still managed to fall down. Dyer was huffing and puffing after about 10 yards and spent most of his time in, or around his tent.
  Dyer claimed to have spent a lot of money on WalMart ribs but Joe and Jimmy could only see one rack hung on a tree. Ribs were not everywhere as Rick had stated in numerous Google Hangouts. I believe Joe called Rick a "fat piece of shit" and expressed total disgust with Freezer Boy.

  Mastroianni gives his opinion of how he thinks Morgan Matthews sustained his injuries in the film. Joe thinks, because of Matthews proximity to Dyer, Morgan was injured from "kickback" after the rifle was fired. Maybe Morgan was filming behind Rick and the camera was hit or Matthews was directly struck by Rick or the rifle. It's speculation but that was Joe's take on the event.

Joe also mentioned that there may be a squabble or legal issues going on between Dyer and Matthews over ownership of the Tent Video footage and other footage contained in the documentary.
As of this writing, I have not found anything that confirm or refute this.

Overall, Joe and Jimmy said this movie is best watched at home, for free.




JoeShow told me he was going to shed some light on the fellows at FB/FB on his program and he shared a few things with me that I was not able to divulge at the time.
Facebook Find Bigfoot was a huge supporter and promoter of Rick Dyer and his claims so it's only fitting that they be included in this post. FB/FB "authenticated" Rick's video and went so far as giving him an award he didn't deserve. It's down right shameful, but it was their money and their trophy.
   The two men gave credence to Dyer's story and in doing so, Rick was able to garner many more supporters than he would have on his own.

This is the photo Joe sent me with this message:
"I did not know/understand consequences in this community (2011) nor care as I do in 2013...<That is very important to me. This was never going to come to light, and was forgotten until the tent vid fiasco."
 


Here is the video Joe made back in 2011:



Here is the FB/FB video that includes Joe's created image. Yes, Joe made the image himself and sent it to Facebook Find Bigfoot. Skip to the 1:50 mark for the relevant portion of the video.
FB/FB

From their album with a link:


If FB/FB alluded to this image being that of a real Bigfoot, which it isn't, what  weight can be given to their "authentication" of Rick Dyer's Bigfoot? How well did they really analyze videos and photos? What makes them experts?
  So far Facebook Fin Bigfoot have not stepped up to the plate and offered the Bigfoot community any explanations, statements or retractions. None. They simply faded way. They abandoned their supporters and did a great injustice to the community by remaining silent. Personally, I find their silence insulting, as if people will somehow forget. One thing I have learned over the past few years is the majority of Bigfootery never forgets and I hope it remains that way.





EDITOR'S NOTE:
Remember this well when the next "big thing" comes along.
  Question everything, and I mean EVERYTHING! What is the reputation of ALL of the people involved? What are their credentials? What makes them an EXPERT? The days of blindly following have to come to an end.
   It pains me to no end that this community is full of hoaxers and snake oil peddlers. Only the people within this community can stop it. Quit enabling those who profess to have something yet show no valid evidence. Say no to blobsquatch photos that require red circles and yellow arrows.

67 comments:

  1. All well said. The Joe show was very entertaining. I think the FBFB guys are laying low hoping that something real comes out of this and waiting till the last minute to admit defeat. In the meantime, silence. I still have my suspicions that they were complicit, especially bc their story about "suddenly" getting pirated footage as they were leaving Toronto and then taking to Musky of all people, showing only him and then destroying the file, is highly, highly improbable on so many levels.

    As for Matthews claiming rights to the tent video, this is very strange and you'd think Dyer would have mentioned enough to keep this news from being a total surprise. Matthews' involvement seems to get more and more suspicious as this goes on as well.

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    1. I continue to think Dyer/Allen(and Matthews?) got spooked by FBFB's bad review and invited them to see footage with Musky, but made them say it was pirated at the premiere rather than supplied to Dyer by Matthews. So they never had it, Musky did, which is why they would say they threw it away after only showing it to Musky, which is absurd. Musky tells them it's awesome, just like the body he saw, so they'll say it's really great after all, and keep the thing going.

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    3. I agree that somehow Matthews is involved with Dyer. Whether it was having someone plant a rumor with Robert Lindsay or faking the ending of his film, I'm not exactly sure but he seems to be hiding something.

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  2. Dyer didn't shoot a bigfoot and doesn't have a body. His shows now have him expressing remorse and guilt, due to hoaxing all the people he now considers friends. Rick is showing emotion in that he feels bad for tricking his only friends he ever had. It's obvious, but not for the simple minded fools.

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  3. Thank You for the kind words about my show.

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    1. You need to read back on the last blog post, hands down you sucked.

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    2. ^ Not true. The show was a lot of fun and good energy among the participants. Maybe the revelation of Joe's 2011 hoax on the Facebook guys didn't knock the Kennedy assassination off the front pages, but I enjoyed the show and was glad to be introduced to it.

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    3. You were listening to the wrong JoeShow then...you are insane to think it sucked, or another jealous host. :P

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  4. 9 people in the room tonight an 4 are team tracker. just him talking about how smart he is. It really is embarrassing to watch, I had to comment and get kicked after about 10min.

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    1. Unless he drums up attention like with his "confession", it has seemed to be like that for a while now.

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  5. I don't understand how you can make comments about FBFB and questioning the next big thing, etc, Racer X. If you truly believe what you are saying then you must be very skeptical that BF does exist. This "community" is full of hoaxers and people who are batshit crazy. So you are saying you trust those people, but you call out FBFB? What makes anyone an expert on a species that has yet been proven to exist? Yet you still believe it does, and so do many others. It's one big contradiction. You can't pick and choose who you think is legitimate when literally no one has ever proven BF is real and no one has ever given any verifiable proof. Don't get me wrong, I am not debating FBFB is a bunch of retards. They are. But if you question them and their motivation, you have to do the same with literally everyone who has ever claimed to see, touch, hear this species that in all likelihood does not exist.

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  6. It's not that FBFB is saying they saw a Bigfoot or shot the videos themselves. They are analyzing videos other people took. It is legitimate to call them out if you feel their methods are lazy or uncritical, or worse, if they are not acting in good faith and just pushing an agenda.

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  7. You are putting words in my mouth. I called out FB/FB because they are self proclaimed "experts". Eye witnesses are not self proclaimed experts but I do question all accounts.
    Questioning doesn't mean disbelieving. I would be inclined to believe anecdotal evidence if the person had a good reputation, was reliable as an individual etc.
    I don't trust people like RickDyer, Musky Allen etc. because of their past history.
    It seems we both agree on FB/FB so I won't get too deeply in to them.
    I hope that made sense to you. Yes, I DO think Bigfoot exists.

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    1. I'm not looking to give you a hard time, just not sure I understand your logic. OK, you call out FBFB because they are self proclaimed experts on something that has never been proven to exist. That is retarded at best, and no need to go further into them, as you suggested. But how can you just give some person a pass because you may think they have a good reputation and are reliable as an individual? Did you know mis-indentification is the #1 reason for wrongful convictions in the legal system? Those witness' could be wonderful people, but they don't know what they actually saw and still pass it along as if it were factual. What makes this any different? It is so incredibly easy to see anything that is big, with hair, and automatically relate it to BF because you know the story. Whats not easy is for a massive creature to exist, be "seen" by thousands of people around the world in all different climates, and yet not a shred of credible evidence has ever been supplied by anyone. Just about every photo and video with the exception of PG film has been debunked by the BF community. And let's be honest, if you do your homework, Patterson was the Dyer of his day. He was a known conman. He set out to find a BF and there it was in plain sight posing for the camera. It is literally the Dyer story to a tee. Yet every one of you who blast Dyer, hang your argument on that Patterson video. I guess I just find it frustrating because it reads as very hypocritical to me. Not you in particular, just in general.

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    2. Actually, I don't hang my hat on the PGF and I'm well aware of Patterson's past. I find the film compelling, but not conclusive.
      I was referring to people within the community who proclaim themselves as experts. The ones who have something to sell based on their unproven theories. That is what I meant by "question" everything and the same could apply to witness reports.
      The problem as I see it, is people are willing to blindly accept information as fact.
      I don't think every witness is lying or mis-identified an animal and I don't think every foot print cast is a hoax.
      I'm only asking people to ask more questions.
      I had no idea this would be such an issue but I respect your opinions, some of which I agree completely with.

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    3. For what it's worth, I agree with you Randy and for the most part.

      I listening to the Joe Show on Thursday night, it was not at all very surprising to me and because I NEVER liked or trusted the FB/FB guys. I'd watched tons of their videos in the past and those guys were GULLIBLE!

      The way they went about using arrows and markers to point out physical characteristics of a 10 pixil sasquatch was beyond ridiculous. But yet, they could see a coned head, the brow ridge and the large mouth in those 10 pixils.

      So, I'm not surprised whatsoever that these guys were able to pass off a CGI bigfoot as the real deal to the FB/FB guys.

      Hoaxers...the whole lot of them!

      In other news, Jason Judd was kicked from TT tonight. He started drinking some wine, felt a little more open and told Dyer he still 'likes' Tom Stickel.

      Dyer stared into the camera for a bit, looking at something on his screen maybe, left, then came back about 5 minutes later and told Judd he could no longer trust him and that he couldn't be on the team anymore. Judd's response was, "fine man, no problem and I understand".

      Oh, and also, they also admitted that the MIB story was just a rouse and when some ditsy girl from California called in to question Dyer.

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    4. Wasn't trying to make it into an issue, per se, just thought it was worth discussing. I do appreciate you giving me a legitimate response rather than the typical response I would expect from someone who believes. We do seem to agree on several points. The trouble I have is that if we do agree on so many points, I don't see how you could believe. I could certainly understand being interested in the topic. I could understand being hopeful that it existed, because it would be very cool. But based on what we do know, I don't see how anyone could be anything but skeptical. Most lose objectivity because they want it to be real. I could certainly name a handful on this blog who fall in that category. You don't seem to fall directly into that category, but I'm still not sure how you could put yourself squarely in the "I Believe" column. But this wasn't really meant to be specifically about you, so I apologize for taking it in that direction.

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    5. So they said the MIB story was a ruse, but then did they say what the real story was? Did they admit it was a hoax from start to finish?

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    6. no, anon 11:38. But it's a 'given' that it's all a hoax.

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  8. Dyer just kick Jason Judd off the Team, Live on air, for saying that he likes Tom Stickel

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    1. Yep and as we speak, another TT hangout ( a private one) has been scheduled.....

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    2. I can`t begin to express how much I detest Dyer. It seems that Judd offended his "Lordship" by stating that he likes Tom Stickel, so Dyer booted him.. Dyer, you mother fucker, I hope I live to see the day that your fucking world is destroyed. You got that, punk?

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    3. ^^^Ok, it`s Fri. night, I`ve had a few and caught a snap. After submitting that last post, I went outside to cool off. I`ve cooled off. That said, Dyer, I hope you rot in hell, you worthless little prick. Better?

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    4. Did Dyer delete this show? It's not on his youtube or blog.

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    5. Anon 11:44

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC6tfbvhNpA&feature=share

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  9. And it's time for an accompanying song to go along with Judd's very recent dismissal.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz_DNrKVrQ8

    Tom, Big Jake, Dallas, Frank and now Jason - just to name a few.

    And why...all because they couldn't be trusted to either go along with a hoax, or would comply to the absolute ABSURDITY that is TT. It's Dyer's way or the highway folks. And he says this is all for the benefit of everyone.....

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  10. All Dyer seems to care about or even talk about these days, is 'friends/friendship'. That his team is ALL about the friendships they've developed...that's what's important - not the alleged discovery of the century.

    Just goes to re-affirm to everyone that Dyer was and still is a very lonely person who grew up starved from affection. That is what this is partly about,that, and building up his low self esteem from his troubled past.

    Everything else is gravy on top; the money, the recognition, the chatter about him for the last year in the b/f community. It's ALL to feed into his very fragile little ego.

    OH! and did you all catch it when he admitted to putting a lemon car into an auction on Thursday night's show? He rigged it so it wouldn't overheat but knew it would die when driven off the auction block. But according to Dyer, 'EVERYONE in the car dealing business does these things.

    That DOESN'T make it right Dyer and it just proves to us and anyone reading that you're a con man through and through. It's what you do best and it's how you make your living.

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    1. "I LOVE you Dale Boswell, I LOVE you Melissa Harsh, I LUVVV you Tim Fricke"....Don''t make us sick! You 'love' these people who you've spent so little time together in the real world? Love is a word you throw around pretty loosely it seems.

      2-3 hour radio shows for days/months on end. Plus whatever else you do in your scamming free time. Where's that same level of LOVE and admiration for your wife and children, Dyer!?!?!?

      You get on these radio shows and literally close the door on your family. You claim that your wife and family are the most important things in your life, more so than bigfoot, then when do you have time to spend that much QUALITY time with your family?

      You've got expeditions planned, wheeling and dealing in your used car (buying and selling), overseeing web chats, countless web sites, phone calls and texts that seem to never stop. Just when do you fit in the time to spend with your family and other than a quick run to local fast food restaurant?

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    2. They`re probably glad to be rid of him for that 2-3 hrs. a night.

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    3. Probably. It's too bad that Lily isn't more than just a 'kept' woman, otherwise, I sure she'd take off with her kids in tow.

      Then again, and from what I've seen & heard, I never had too much respect for her either. She obviously likes her lifestyle and she seems just as superficial/materialistic as Dyer.

      The true victims of all of this are those young kids.

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    4. I agree whole heartedly and have stated the same things in the past. I`m off to the rack to sleep it off. One or five too many Scotch`s. Take it easy, Aliehs.

      DM.

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    5. Thanks and later then DM.

      Glad to be in the company of another who uses the "COMMON SENSE Dyer is always mentioning! lol

      Take that Dyer -you imbecile and all your advice for others to use common sense. What a complete joke.

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    6. AliensLive, I'm with you!

      When does he spend time with his family? All damn day! He doesn't have a friggin' job. He described his typical day a few shows back ... it consists of essentially nothing. Wakes up late, plays with kids, shops around, plays with kids some more, begs wife for sex, leaves kids alone to walk to the store with Lily ... and he says haters have no life. lol!

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  11. I've been thinking more about WHY Dyer has decided to use one of his various other Youtube channels to post his latest videos on. That channel is found under the name: 'Mike Roe' and if doing a search.

    Why is it that everything Dyer accuses everyone else of, like having multiple channels, names etc, he feels free to do himself? And there are SEVERAL different names, channels and alias that he's used for his online communications, Whether on Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, general websites - the man has a bevy of online tentacles that never seems to end....

    What's with all the names and sites, Dyer? I'm sure there is dozens more that nobody knows about either.

    What about your fat camp website...that one is either gone or moved to a new address too.

    NOTHING in your life is stable or static. You move from house to house like a gypsy, you shuffle your websites around like a deck of cards. You drive different cars all the time...why is that? Oh right, it's the HATERS fault and NOT because you yourself LOVE irritating and provoking haters....

    You're DISGUSTING DYER. Your voice and face makes me want to puke and if there is any justice in this world, you'll get yours.

    Hey, haters got to hate, right?

    And for the record, Vegas Rob didn't harass you, your kids or wife. You didn't even know he was there. Since when is it illegal to discretely follow a SUPER STAR such as yourself? That's what you are, right - a super star that drives around in vehicles with huge mugshots of yourself on your vehicles, whoring around for any attention you can get. He didn't even approach or interact with you and you call that harassment and stalking?

    Get that life you're always suggesting that the rest of us don't have.



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    1. This is 'SUPER-STAR' Dyer doing what he does best, BULL SHIT!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20QRyzIliNw

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    2. NO PIX OF KIDS WERE TAKEN. NO KIDS WERE SEEN AT ALL.

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  12. Steve Lane show tonight! Woop!

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  13. Dyer truly is a despicable human being in every way possible. An absolute POS stain on the human race. I do hate to wish bad things to happen to anyone but the day I read he finally got his comeuppance will be a damn good day.

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    1. Agreed. He is despicable in every way.

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  14. Getting booted from Team Tracker because you like Tom Stickel is no badge of honor.

    Leaving Team Tracker because you like Tom Stickel and couldn't bear Dyer's lies about him would have been.

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    1. YES. So true, leaving in solidarity of your so called friend is much more honorable.

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  15. Does anyone know at what minute mark in POS's show last night he kicks Jason Judd out? I simply can't sit through all 2:42 of that piece of human garbage's show.

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    1. Start at about the 2 hour, 30 minute mark.

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    2. Guys I have to admit, it is things like what happened on Dyers show last night around the 2:30 mark that makes them worth watching. The look on Jason Judd's face as he gets kicked out of Team Tracker is priceless. Disappointment that he just lost his best friends in life, combined with feeling of guilt like a 3 year old has when they are caught sneaking cookies, topped off with feelings of remorse in the hopes of not pissing off King Dyer any more in the hopes that he can come back. All of this in the span of 5 minutes, pure gold. This is an exclamation point in why these people are still with Team Tracker. Jason you are a 30-40 year old grown ass man. Stand up for yourself, if you are getting kicked go out with a middle finger, not a sheepish grin and that hang dog expression hoping that Rick takes you back. And Rick, every Team Tracker member you kick is one more person that has inside info on your hoax. You might want to lighten the hell up, you are down to like 3 now. Based on Melissa's eating the entire show, she is probably not a long term member.

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    3. One day Judd will think back to last night and thank his lucky stars that he was booted from the cult and out of the manipulating hands of its lying, thieving cult leader, Dyer.

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    4. Oh, please. He'll be back within a few days.

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    5. Please provide link to this show where Judd gets kicked out.

      Thanks

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    6. Toward the end...


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC6tfbvhNpA&feature=share

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    7. Thanks for that..I don't know how you guys found this..I couldn't?
      Vintage Dyer...Paranoid personality...Sociopathic.

      He always goes back to *protecting his family*..yet continues to put himself *OUT THERE* as a hoaxer. Dyer>>>are your reading this?

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  16. I can see it now: emergency team tracker meeting.
    Rick Dyer: "I assembled you guys today to discuss a former member of our flock Jason Judd. As you all know, I have a lot in common with Jesus so I am turning the other cheek. Jason, I will welcome you back on one condition. To show you are truly sorry I need you to purchase the remaining 87 copies of the autopsy DVD. That way we can start fresh no hard feelings. If not, I will dedicate the next 6 shows talking about how you let me call you Lily and have my way with you. You see Jason, I only attack those that attack me. And as I don't have a life outside of bigfooting I have nothing to lose."
    Pan to the rest of Team Tracker, all clapping welcoming Jason back. Melissa tearing up and shouting muffled cries of joy through the mouthful of Chicken and Biscuit crackers she is chomping on.

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  17. Mmm chicken and biscuit crackers are delicious
    Dirt

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  18. Yeah, I have to agree, Judd will back within a week. POS is very predictable. And if Judd were to finally use last night's outing to finally see the light and refuse to return to TT, then Dyer will slander the living hell out of him every chance he gets for the next month.

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    1. Doing it publicly like that was a clear message to the rest of his followers. Step out of line and you're out. My enemies are your enemies. My way or the highway. If you dare speak out against me, I will accuse you of all manner of perversion, post your address and ruin your name.

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  19. Dyers latest show tonight..."Team Tracker Live and Drunk tonight at 6:30 pm pst 9:30pm est!! A Must see:)". In typical fashion sounds like a show dedicated to mocking JJ.....

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  20. Maybe he'll get drunk and shoot HIMSELF! (We can only hope)

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  21. The only thing more pathetic than being in a cult ran by an uneducated, socially stunted, wife beating, hoaxing, redneck piece of shit is being kicked out of the cult live on the internet by an uneducated, socially stunted, wife beating, hoaxing, redneck piece of shit.

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  22. Steve Lane show in 10 mins! 7 pm eastern. Links in Randy's new blog post.

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  23. I like really like Tom Stickel.

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  24. Please read this and comment! Thanks!http://omahanews.com/2013/11/26/bigfoot-in-nebraska-perhaps/

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