Ahhh, this room is air conditioned...Thanks RX.
BTW, why is Dyer so sentimental about the baby "keys" staying with the body when he believes that Hank was a child abductor/killer?
DS Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:01:00 AM"Nothing i post can be proven as truth or a Lie, until the body comes out, same goes for you!!"Well that's just not true. Here's just a few:FACT - Dyer promises 3 minutes of HD footage in movie. Did not happen.FACT - Dyer promises body will be released to coincide with movie. Did not happen. FACT - Dyer promises to release high def pictures, video and receipts for reefer truck. Did not happen. FACT - MM says he was attacked by man in suit and when asked if BF is real says he would like to think so. The world would be a better place. Also read as, I dont know, I have never seen one. FACT - Dyer has perpetrated this hoax before. In fact, 3 other hoaxes, though this one seems to be a spitting image of 2008. FACT - Dyer is a known conman and criminal. FACT - Not one person who is not associated with Dyer and his team have come forward as having seen the body. FACT - Despite signing NDA's Dyer's team of people seem to have talked endlessly about seeing the body. Yet anyone not affiliated with Dyer has not said a word. FACT- Dyer says the body was not embalmed.FACT - You cannot preserve a body long term without some form of embalming (with constant maintenance) or plastination. This is just a few, and they are all facts. I'm sure if I actually thought about it for 5 minutes I could come up with several dozen more. Anyone who would like to add, feel free...
Fact- there is no open dumpster behind The Home Depot like Dyer stated. Only a closed system not accessible from the outsideFact- Movie reviews from professional reviewers have stated movie is A Blair witch style movie. A movie about crazy footers and hoaxers. The movie includes crazy footers and a hoax. Makes sense Bc this is what the movie is about
Excellent points!Vegas Rob
I made that (HD dumpster) point 4 months ago on a different forum. I worked for Home Depot for years building their displays all across the Western U.S including San Antonio Texas. Would be a trip if I had actually been to that one Rick claims was the one he saw the BF, but honestly I don't recall. Here is the truth on the Home Depot Dumpsters. They are completely enclosed with the only access from the inside. Not only that, but even the inside is locked down tight by a large padlock and can only be opened by a manager with keys and usually locked immediately afterwards. They do this for theft prevention and quality control. No one is even allowed to take an empty cardboard box from those dumpsters and you can and will get fired just for taking a candy wrapper from there. This is not second hand knowledge, but my daily life for three years. I know this for a fact. And I might add, typically there are no other store directly attached to Home Depots like in a strip mall. For the same reasons. They don't want to take a chance anyone will dig through a wall at night. Any questions on this just ask me.G.A
My point on the proximity of the other stores such as a strip mall was to point out that, there would not have even been another stores dumpster nearby and the reason for that is also for theft protection and quailty control. Just so you know Home Depot throws away perfectly good merchandise all of the time. They began enclosing dumpsters and making their trash policy very strict decades ago because people were going through the garbage and returning stuff for a cash refund. It was a huge liability and cost them a lot of money. So their garbage policy is the strictest I have ever seen. As a side note, but an important one. Home Depot is surrounded by security cameras, which would have meant HD would have had footage of anything outside of their building. Just more food for thought.G.A
G.A. Would a Bigfoot understand that fact? To them, a dumpster "could" have food in it. Just because it was near the dumpster don't mean much. They have been seen by cars. Does that mean Bigfoot can drive? Question for you G.A. Have you ever seen a Bigfoot? Can you or I be able to understand what one would be thinking? Rick Dyer loves all the attention you are all giving him. i fthere is no body, so what? Who really cares
So, how many here believe Vermont is going to happen? It's hard to believe that their is much interest after the debacle that was Mt Charleston? And with the body being indefinately delayed and membership fading fast...who's going to attend? Also, the dim bulb, die hard believers don't strike me as a group with a lot of disposible cash lying around. This trip is going to be mighty expensive...what welfare receipient or minimum wage worker is going to be able to afford this?What do you think? Will it happen? If not how does Dyer play it? Like G.A. suggested, will Dyer make his disappearing act at this time? If it does play out I can't wait to see the group photo! (LOL)Vegas RobP.S. If you catch wind of another yard sale let me know. I would like to drop by and check it out. Since he's no longer interested in his video equipment (LMAO!), maybe I'll buy it)
Vegas Rob, The last people who dropped by are in jail.
I think it won't happen. But since the radio shows are cancelled, we won't know
Oh, we'll know! We have enough contacts to find out how this plays out.Vegas Rob
According to Dyer's website they are having TWO expeditions between July 19th and July 21st. One in Vermont and one in Arkansas. How the hell will he have enough supporters to fund two expeditions over the same time period? http://rdyer702.wix.com/teamtracker#!expedition/cs9k
Part of me really want's DS and G.A. to be the same person. I want to believe G.A. is just 'pulling our collective leg.' Otherwise it almost hurts to think someone can be so blinded in the face of SO much evidence.Mind you, "HURTS" in a comical kind of way! (LOL)Hang in there DS!Vegas Rob
If u look on fbfb's page, it's not hard to find out who GA is. I email quite often with DS so I know his name. And it doesn't match GA's name
I'm not sure anyone truly believes they are the same person. It's just a fun theory. There is nothing that would make me think they are one and the same.
I don't believe they are one and the same...it was just 'tongue in cheek.'Vegas Rob
Response to DS stop sign judgement fairness post in other thread. Life, as you know, isn't fair DS. Particularly when they behave the way Dyer has. It reminds me of the boy who cried wolf and the fool me twice axioms. Can you imagine a world where people spreading the chaos Dyer does repeatedly getting the benefit if a doubt? Expecting it? There are consequences for our actions and it is nearly impossible to feel any sympathy for Dyer because he appears unable to apologize and apparently can't comprehend benefits to being a little humble on occasion. In essence he is incredibly easy to dislike due to a multitude of unaddressed flaws in his character.
DS's analogy makes zero sense, and I will tell you why. In his example someone is being pulled over by a cop and trying to defend himself. He did not call attention to himself, or purposefully speed through the stop sign hoping that he would be pulled over. Dyer, however, is the one who put himself back in the spotlight. He is the one who has made this outrageous claim, not us. He is the one who claims to have shot a bigfoot and provided zero evidence in just about a years time. This was HIS choice, not ours. Do you understand the difference DS? The burden of proof rests solely with him because he is the one making the claim. To date, he has not substantiated his claim in any way. When you take that information, along with the fact that he has done the SAME THING multiple times before, it's not much of a stretch to conclude that this is a hoax.
So, who here has signed up for the Vermont Expedition? (lol)
My legal team continues to review the nda. My decision is pending their finding.
Bottom line...Dyer`s in the git out while the gitin`s good mode. Kinda fun to watch actually.
Me...I can't wait to see the 'grand implosion' of the Clown King! Unfortunately the king no longer has his chariot. Farewell clown mobile!
WOW! I love it. I am now part of the conspiracy. Never in my wildest dreams, but I actually appreciate it and it gives a new twist to the whole thing, which I desperately needed. What if unbeknownst to even me, I actually am Dr Squatch? Now that is something to chew on like an episode from the Twilight zone. I don't believe any of you who have followed me really believe that, but maybe I will encourage it anyway. I kind of lost a little steam and there seems to be less and less to say on the topic as we and I have already covered it ad nauseam and this tornado is now fizzling to a whimper. I guess out of boredom I encouraged DS to make a list of why he truly believes and some of you have taken that to mean I am changing sides. Honestly I have more faith in Charles Manson getting paroled and being paraded down Haight Ashbury as hero icon of the 60's than Dyer shot a bigfoot. So I read that Dyer is now going into full lock down, which really, can you blame him? We have treated the poor sot so badly and especially after all he has done for us. I have been tempted to make him a cake or knit him a sweater, just something to cheer him up, but I can't decide what is the perfect gift for a man who has it all, but is still feeling under appreciated? Any suggestions would surely be appreciated and I will head up the fund to make it happen. Here's to making Rick Dyer feel better about himself! Here's a cheer I know you all can get behind.Hey Ricky your so fine, your so fine you blow my mind. Go Ricky! Go Ricky!Hey RickyYouve been around all nightand thats a little long,You think you've got the right,But I think you've got it wrong.Why can't you say goodnightSo you can take me home Ricky,Cause when You say you willIt always means you won'tYoure givin me the chillsbaby, please baby don'tEvery night you still leave me aloneRicky.ChorusOh Ricky what a pity you dont understandYou take me by the heartYou take me by the handOh Mickey Youre so prettyCant you understand?Its guys like you RickyOh what you do RickyDo RickyDont break my heart Mickey.Verse 2Now When you take me by the hoovesEveryone's gonna knowEverytime you moveI let a little More showThere's Something we can useSo dont say no Ricky!So Come on and give it to meAnyway you canAnyway you want to do itIll treat you like a manOh Please, Baby PleaseDont leave me in a jam Ricky!G.A
No, G.A., I don't believe anyone really believed you were DS. and we certainly don't believe you're switching sides!? This whole Dyer thing is so absurd and ridiculous we were just adding to it. My post was entirely in jest. Vegas Rob
I knew that VR, thanks. It was kind of cool to read those posts and actually inspired me to come back this morning. Last night was going to be my last post as I was getting bored of it all, so you guys actually without knowing it encouraged my return. I also added feedback to the above Home Depot dumpster thing if interested. That was a short break.......G.A
Lucky you came back, everyone would have thought you were me for sure!!
All of the facts that you listed where Rick Lied, I agree with (except the embalming part, never heard that?.....But,that is part of my 40% ....And the parts I think are compelling, I Listed some for the 60%.
Anything you listed was not based in fact. None of it. It would be a reach to even call it circumstantial. So how is it at all possible you could be more inclined to believe Dyer when you have zero facts, as opposed to not believing him when you have a multitude of facts? Unless, of course, this is entirely based on your desire for BF to be real and a serious case of confirmation bias. Why not just admit it? All the facts point to hoax but you disregard because you want BF to be real. I'm not calling you stupid for doing it, but at least admit it.
DS- Rick has stated numerous times the body was not embalmed. He first stated this after Musky returned from Las Vegas. Musky said there was a "partial embalming". Rick was adamant the embalming never happened. Rick also stated on numerous radio shows the body was not frozen.Rick stated the body remained in a reefer truck for 30-45 days before being housed in the "facility". Reefer trucks are designed to keep already frozen or chilled products at a desired temperature.How effective would a reefer truck be at cooling down and maintaining an optimum temperature for a hair covered, almost 9ft. tall, over 800 lb. body?How long would this body last without professional intervention?These are known facts as stated by Rick Dyer himself and it's written in his booklet.
Come on now, Racer.Your response seems based in facts and reasonable. That doesn't jive with DS. Clearly they sprinkled some magical powder over the body while it was sitting in the truck for 45 days. Duh!!
Maybe that's why the Wrap guy said it Stinks so bad, and why there was Powder on it, due to advanced Decomposition? How is the Ice-Man still Preserved? Is it a fake? If it was not Embalmed, then it was not Embalmed, does not mean there isn't a Body!
"Napier, in conjunction with the Smithsonian, made preliminary investigations of Hansen's affairs, claiming to find that Hansen had commissioned the creation of the Iceman from a West Coast company in 1967, leading Napier to quickly conclude there was only ever one Iceman latex model that he theorized was repositioned and refrozen between appearances. Napier stated that "The Smithsonian Institution…is satisfied that the creature is simply a carnival exhibit made of latex rubber and hair…the 'original' model and the present so-called 'substitute' are one and the same."
DS- Are you sure you're following this entire saga? Rick said during one of his radio shows that the body was in perfect condition. Wrap guy says it stinks, Rick says it's in great shape. How does that work?The Iceman that recently sold was a latex/hair dummy. The "real" one was frozen in a block of ice. I have no idea if there was a real body though.
I believe that there was a real iceman, but it disappeared decades ago, and was replaced by a dummy. As I recall, there was some interest in the iceman by a local pathologist, because they wanted to rule out it was a human, so it was "stolen" and replaced by the dummy. The dummy went on exhibit for sometime after, but the original has been lost.-Lvx
If they're telling the Truth, then everything I said is FACT! You keep saying that everything I say is Circumstantial, But so is Most of what You say. Neither of us can really claim we are right! We can only give our opinions of what we Hear, Because Rick has not Produced the Goods yet! I have admitted already that my belief in BF, plays a part in my Beliefs for wanting this to happen, I would be Lying if I said it didn't! It's funny how anyone associated with Dyer gets run through the mud by you guys. None of you know these people! They might be Good, honest, People, but they are never given the benefit of the doubt. The new Security Guard was already Bashed by a few. If He claims to have seen the Body, The Hate will start Flying Big Time! WHY? Because you guys hate Dyer so much, that you will do and say just about anything to Discredit Him, and those who believe Him. He can't ever tell the Truth, and everything He says or Does is a Scam, Hoax, or a Chance to Leave the Country, Right? How many people have Left TT because they had concrete proof it was a Hoax? Zero!
If you think most of what I said above is circumstantial, you do not know the meaning of the term. Those are facts that have taken place, have been proven and cannot be disputed. That is what makes them facts. What about that do you not understand? Your theories are all reliant on the good word of a conman, who says he has all the evidence in the world, but will not release ANY of it. Oh, and the words of the people who work with him. I realize I am beating a dead horse here because you cannot comprehend anything I am saying. Your overwhelming belief in BF has given you severe blinders. But I do feel the more I get you to talk, the more ridiculous you come across and maybe anyone who is on the fence will get it. And correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't the bulk of TT gone by the wayside? You don't hear much from them anymore do you. OHHH, that must be because of the new set of rules Dyer set forth right? Lord knows they have to follow those rules or all hell breaks loose. You better send him a copy of your i.d. stat.
By the way, this is the most retarded statement I have read on this blog to date. "If they're telling the Truth, then everything I said is FACT!" LOL...wow!! You do not understand logic or reasoning even a little bit. GA, you must appreciate that line.
We'll see who gets the Last laugh, In a month or so.
A month...I thought it was "any day now" as he stated OVER a month ago. Wake up Doc.
Yes, He said any day now, and then said there will be a Delay, I wasn't happy at all. Rick wants this to seem Like it's all a Hoax (not because it is) But because He wants to get you guys so Fired up, and feeling Like you're Right, and then He's going to turn it around and Drop a BOMB on you guys!
The dyer thing is old now. The next best Bigfoot thing is Sasquatch Ontario on YouTube. Anybody watching that?
One Hoax at a time please...
Yeah this is getting very boring. We have proven its a hoax, TT is in shambles, no one going on VT expedition. Boooooring. Do something crazy dyer or we will all stop talking about you very soon. And we know u won't like that
Anything Bigfoot makes me want to cringe these days. The closer we get to proof the farther it slips away. The Ontario thing is cool, but after the whole Dyer thing and all of the other jackasses in the field I am feeling quite discouraged and have little trust in anyone anymore. It will end up being some 8 year old kid that finally brings us proof before one of these bucket toting buffoons. Speaking of 8 year old kids, I have been hopeful for 38 years, which was when I was an 8 year old kid first getting interested in BF. Seems we haven't gotten an inch closer since those days. I wish it was different but it is not. Thanks to Dyer there will a whole generation of kids that will loose interest in the subject before they even get started since he has sullied the whole wondrous mystery that we used to lightly behold. Wish in some ways this incident passed by me without noticing like the 2008 one did. It was barely a blip on my screen back then and quickly in a flash debunked. If anything Rick Dyer has shattered the dreams of the newly fascinated children that still wonder about monsters and the mysteries they contain. That in and of itself is worthy of retribution. I say keep up the bashing folks, even if I am not here to join you in your mission. The man needs to be gone med evil on and tarred and feathered or perhaps locked in a stock and have old musky tomatoes and cabbage thrown at him. I might check in every once in a while, but think I have spent enough energy on the wicked and vile Rick Dyer. Long live the haters, for they are the champions of deceit, betrayal and skally waggers. Peace all. Until next timeMy real name is Ignio Montoyo. You killed my father. Prepare to die.G.A
I'm with GA....Enough is Enough.I will also check the blog if something is worth discussing. But it's break time for now.God Bless,Dr. Squatch
On the flip side, those of us who have had an up close and personal experience with a Sasquatch...well...no one will believe us without proof.I`m sticking it out till Dyer falls.
Dyer fell in the movie.Literally.
The 'bomb' is coming after he spends some time churching up Gimly, and you know what I mean by bomb!
Well we just lost the 2 "stars" of this blog..... unless something big happens soon oe mata hari or another mole can get us some info this whole thing is gonna die on its ass....Move along folks nothing to see here...
What happened to Dallas and Wayne? Didn't see them on the last couple of hangouts. Wonder if they have had enough.
Dyer has shut down his Facebook page with the hundreds of friends and now has just 17...all Team Tracker, and his residence says Los Angeles. Who knows what that means...https://www.facebook.com/rick.dyer.3597I had heard that he really was in fact moving, but who knows where...
From an inside TT member who is afraid Dyer is running and hopes this info will cause influential believers to read between the lines and force Dyer's hand:-NDA scam was put together after Dyer and team lied about going to Vegas the week before the expedition, because they weren't happy having to lie to friends who were believing the story-Only Cali (not Sands) supposedly saw the body the next weekend, but he claimed the NDA wouldn't allow him to discuss it EVEN with other members he was on trip with. Cali blatantly lied about the first viewing and no one believes he saw it the second time he said so either.
Bored, bored, bored. We tore team tracker apart. Everyone with any critical thinking skills jumped ship (thanks, largely to us) and the members still clinging to this hoax are either in on it, or retarded. Seriously. As for their esteemed leader, no one will do a better job of completely destroying Rick Dyer than Rick Dyer. TTs in shambles. Well done everyone. I'm out with one final... F-you Dyer!Oh, and if I see you on the street I will kick you in the ass Ricky-boy.
Well said.....later gaters.F-U Dyer
I hope someone can keep us up to date on Dyer`s escape route/destination.Vegas Bob maybe?
No one cares anymore!
Then why are you checking this forum?
To Let u know it's over, move on, nothing left folks!
We must find someone else to hate on! I MUST FEEEEEEEED!!!!
Hey RacerX, you should save and archive some of the posts on your blog and maybe create a page dedicated to some of the best of the best comments. Kind of a collage of hate. That could be fun.
Don't give rick anymore attention! That's What he wants!
Yeah. One final hurrah to usher out Dyer forever would be good!!
Prepare to eat crow.
Still going huh 9:58? You can tell Dyer, everyone has lost interest. Even if he were to provide a body now, we don't care anymore. Nobody cares anymore. Please take your bigfoot body and go home.
Oh, I think everyone would care. They wouldn't like that Dyer did it. But the chances of that happening aren't that great to be charitable.
Very charitable indeed. Whatever Rick claims to have has Rick stink all over it. That was what car wrap guy smelled. Because it is Rick, even a real body will have its skeptics.
Give yourselves a big round of applause. TT is in shambles. "Tiny" Dick Dyer is a mess. The "Gimli" body has failed. A well deserved, and righteous victory! Unfortunately, there will be more hoaxers in the future, so we must stay vigilant, and end them as soon as possible.
I think Dyer should go to rehab, get of the methamphetamines. Get out, get hooked on steroids, bulk up and hopefully they will shrink his gonads into proper proportions to his 'hung like a light switch' nubbin.
Yes! All hail the haters!! We win we win we win. Nana na boo boo, stick your head in doo doo dyer
You`re right guys. We ran the lying prick off. :)
Lol. You can't get shed of a bad penny that easy. I wish it was as easy as this, you and I kicked back basking in the glory of victory...Surely you're not that dense? Ricky ding dang do is lying around dreaming up the next big lie, the next eBay scam, itching for a hit and for Lily to give him an excuse to rage on that poor tiny little woman. Picture Rick Dyer in a generals uniform (wrinkled and dusted with Hank's magic powder, wearing sun glasses and a corn cob pipe with crack residue tucked in his lips, boasting "I SHALL RETURN."
The hoax is over! Haters win! Soon, very soon no one will ever talk about Dyer and TT again. Everyone associated with TT and that believed the hoax will be forever labeled hoaxers themselves. FBFB shut down, TT is done, hoax is over. Great Job all! Ding Dong the witch is dead!!
Rick's now claiming that two of his members saw a "live" bigfoot on the Mt. Charleston expedition. This is strange as I distinctly remember he came out shortly after the expedition saying that although they never saw any bigfoots it was a great team building event. NOW, they have two members witnessing a bigfoot...will the lies ever stop?http://bigfootevidence101.blogspot.ca/2013/07/rick-dyer-expedition-91.html
Yes Anon 1:47- Rick originally said no Sasquatch was seen, but then after Frank Cali writerextraordinaire was christened as VP, he recalled as his heart was about to explode that good Ol' Dallas did his patented, trademarked bigfoot SOS call, lo and behold there he was watching poor Frank on deaths door, Dallas humming through a kazoo, poor old Wayne packing his bucket and Ricky counting his money and counting rocks (coke not mineral!)Vermont should be a doozy!
How about we come up with creative ways to humiliate Rick and drive him back into a hole where he belongs with his tail between his legs? Any mole info would be great right about now so we can put the final kibosh on this 4 time loser. I would hate to see Rick get off easily and just walk away.
So you're a paranoid sociopath who just said he wants to lead a special forces team through the forests of Texas to exterminate every bigfoot he can find. You say you have a body that is sitting in a facility in Las Vegas but is awaiting a go ahead from investors to be released to the public. Wouldn't you be a little concerned that they would love to do that while your embarrassing ass is in a kayak on the other side of the continent? Or even that the story would break some other way before you could get back and bask in your worldwide fame?? If this Vermont expedition that supposedly mandatory but now includes only dyer and two other guys is not proof that there is no body, no nothing, I don't know what will convince you.
Anon 3:21, hold your horses big fella, Dyer has promised this: "The team will be sending back videos the entire time they are there and the vidoes will all be posted here on this blog and YouTube for all to see."See, all is well. Dyer will be forth right and honest. Also this may be the first 'open source' bigfoot expedition ever in history. Real time updates, real research, no need to drag out the fake gimli dwarffoot just yet...
Hello all!I haven't been thinking about Rick Lately since it's obvious that We've all said our business, and there is NOTHING else to say, Honestly. All we can do is wait at this point. That being said, I thought it might be a good time to talk about 2008!I'm going to start off with a very basic overview of what we were told happened. If I leave something out, let me know, But This should be a general start. If we can agree on the overview, I will continue from there.Rick and Matt claim to have shot a BF...They call Steve Kulls Radio show, and Kulls tells them to call Biscardi, He knows what to do. Biscardi believes them, and Flies down to see the body...Biscardi tells us that He was blindfolded and taken to an unknown location, and people were there with AR-15's, guarding the body. Biscardi gives Dyer $50,000 after seeing the body, flies back, and calls a press conference. Biscardi tells the Audience that He measured the Feet and Hands, and tells them that BF is as real as everyone sitting there......Dyer and Matt come on to give their Testimony....Meanwhile Kulls and Biscardi's son are having trouble thawing out the Body, and need more Heaters....Next day, after thawing, Biscardi gets a call from his son and He says it has a Rubber Foot. Biscardi says Dyer and Matt tricked him, stuffed a Pig carcass, and put other real animal parts on it, so it looked and felt real...Also stole his $50k.....Dyer later says on vid, that BF isn't real, and everybody knew they were Lying.Is that a fair overview...anything to add, anyone?
Doc, first off left me say I missed you. Secondly let me say, Your Random capitalization Absolutely drives me Flipping insane. Are you Absolutely sure You earned A doctorate IN the united States? Just giving you a hard time! (as if you need anymore of that...)I am glad you are writing about 2008, you alluded in earlier posts that you may have 'inside' knowledge, or at least 'figured it out'. In fact, you said you believed there was 'more to the story'... I kept an open mind, and this is your treatise on your big detective work? Surely you jest? I think this is the EXACT storyline in Kulls book "50 Large". Are you taking lessons from Dyer?Anyway Doc, I salute you, and your incessant quirky random capitalization.
I thought they claimed the found the dead body originally?
Yes, they did on aisle 4 at Party USA between the French Maid costume and the Witch hats.
DS. Overview complete and agreed this was THE story. PLEASE enlighten all of us.
My internet just down...posting from my phone.....gimme til it comes on...??
Promise then delay... classic Dyer technique Doc.Lol. The internet is good when it works, but when it refuses to cooperate, passenger pigeons look pretty good!
How many passenger pigeons would it take to take care of the daily hits on just wikipedia? Yowsa! But alas, they were all obliterated a hundred years before Dyer went on his crusade to do the same to the kid killing Sasquatch nation.
I know this will probably get lost in the comments, but when my moms not home i like to go to her garden and cover myself with dirt and pretend I'm a carrot.G.A
G.A I hope you, like me are awaiting Doc's manifesto on the REAL 2008 story. Apparently we are waiting for his internet service to be brought back from the dead. Carrot? I perceive you more of a turnip. ;-)
Yes indeed I am. Briefly checked in and saw that we were in for a treat, so decided to stick around for a bit.Nah, I relate more to carrots, but there's always tomorrow.G.A
I am anxious to hear the unadulterated "truth" about 2008, or at least Doc's hypothesis. (It otta be a hum dinger) I think it must be the old MIB story. Damn gubbermint.
While we are waiting any Zombie fans out there? Anyone psyched for season 4 of the walking dead?G.A
No satellite or cable here, here in the stix we have an antenna and that's it, (besides the interwebs and local idiots to amuse us)Never have watched even an episode of the Walking Dead. I've heard its a good'un.
Netflix has the first two seasons and I believe the third soon. That right there is worth the $7.99 a month for an internet neflix subscription.G.A
We just switched ISPs, so we need to give Netflix another go. Before, our DSL download speed was 0.01MbS... Holy crap! Dial up in the 90's was quicker. We ditched those idiots (phone company) and now are basking in the glory of 8megs! Feels like I'm in the Matrix.
Ok, I'm back for on now. That was bad Timing! Question...Why would Biscardi, a Bigfoot Researcher, Like Him or not, Give Rick $50k, (And have Rick & Matt Sign a Contract for the Release of the body, $50k, and a future percentage the income that would generate from the Discovery = I Saw the Contract.) Then call a Press conference, and claim He Measured the Feet and Hands, and it is Real. Dyer and matt give their Testimony. At this point Biscardi is Convinced what He paid for is Real! I remember Him telling the Reporter from Fox News, Megan, That she can be the first one to see it..He was Adamant!So why would Biscardi do that? When His Reputation Ain't the Greatest already.
I'm not nearly as familiar with the 2008 hoax, but I'll bite.First, I guess we ought to know many in the bigfoot field who claim leaves and shadows are bigfoot are fairly easy to fool. A person who wants to believe, sees what he wants to see. Apparently especially Biscardi.Secondly, who's to say Biscardi wasn't part of the hoax after he saw the freezer body. I think that is the consensus anyway.Without a press conference your hoax is limited to your close friends and family and is not going to make you much money$$$. And lastly I don't see Biscardi being too concerned with what people think of him. Besides which even your own account has Biscardi claiming it was a fake and that he himself was hoaxed. So how do we get from there to it was actually real all along?G.A
The other question I have is what became of the 50k? Did Biscardi get his money back or did he slump back into the woods kicking sand?G.A
There were so many stories....I don't know on that one!
If BF is not Real like the Tooth Fairy, and I tell you I made a fake one. You believe me, or want to be in on the Hoax, and you go on TV and tell the World I have a Tooth Fairy, and you can confirm it, because you measured body parts on it? You want to be in on that Hoax? And your telling the World you just gave me $50k too!
If I was a tooth fairy hunter and I was referred to by someone claiming to have shot a tooth fairy, considering I most likely don't have too much else going on in the tooth fairy hunting world I would go check it out. Once I got there and discovered it was a fake tooth fairy, I might consider it a good investment since this story already has wheels and no one else has claimed to have shot a tooth fairy lately. So let me get this straight. Rick Dyer shot a tooth fairy?G.A
If we don't believe the rest of the story why would we believe that there was an actual 50K involved in the first place? It's just more hoax grease. Otherwise like my question above, no way would Biscardi accept that he was hoaxed and let Rick keep the money. Nor would he fork out that kind of money without confirmation. It was all a test run for 2013G.A
Doc, I am sure Biscardi was VERY adamant! That's how hoaxers get people to bite. Being wishy washy, and indifferent will convince no one. Also Doc, where is this knowledge you have stumbled upon, at this point it seems all you have is just a fringe theory full of "Whys?" Why would Biscardi do this or that? Who flipping knows. I can't believe Matt Whitton put his job on the line and ultimately lost it pulling this scam. So let's get to the meat of the story. DOCTOR SQUATCH, what EXACTLY do you think went down???
Hoax Grease! G.A I am going to need that put on a T shirt to wear to the Rick Dyer arraignment.
It wasn't a test run, Rick has said several times that He Learned what not to do with Hank, what He did in 2008.You would not go on TV and make a complete *** out of yourself, knowing that everyone is going to find out it's not Real.
I'm confused. Doc, are you now saying Dyer WAS hoaxing in 2008? Damn man, for having attained a doctorate, your writings are ambiguous as all get out.SO... THIS time, Dyer will never release the body so we all will never find out it's not real?
DS, you fail to amaze me.
RacerX, I kind of see you as an authority on Mr. Dyer, what are your thoughts and memories of the mighty 2008 DyerBiscardiWhitton fiasco? I remember it really pissed me off. I hate these dudes, what would possess someone to pull a stunt like that? (Then again in 2013!) Where is the payoff? What is the incentive? I see Dyer/Whitton's if they did cash in a $50K check. Was Biscardi a mark? Was he the shill for the "REAL" investor/mark? Here I thought DS had really come up with some ingenious new information and what another let down... The same EXACT crap people have been talking about and asking since 2008. HoHum.
I'm not as well versed on the 2008 hoax as I am with Dyer between 2001-2013.Rick/Matt claimed to have another body in 2009 and video of another Bigfoot in 2009. Nothing ever came of these hoaxes and they were minor compared to 2008.Last year in Florida, Rick posted photos of a "bigfoot" and claimed it was real. When everyone laughed at the goofy photos, Rick said people hoaxed him. As usual, Dyer never gives clear explanations of anything.I do know the whole MIB story was a lie by Rick and he mentioned it a few times on his radio show. He said he did it just to get on the news. The news clip is on my YouTube channel. Look for Texoma Cryptid Fest.We mostly hear Rick's side of the hoax. A good source of information is at Squatchdetective: http://squatchdetective.com/sfbi.htmPersonally I think Tom Biscardi knew exactly what was going on. He's as shady as Rick is when it comes to telling the truth, but that's my opinion.Tom tried to pass off a beaver leg as the leg of a Bigfoot. He's a shameless self promoter.The 2013 hoax is what the 2008 hoax was supposed to be. Rick never got his autopsy video in '08 so I think he's trying to complete the hoax for his own twisted fun.It's all about money, it always has been.
Thanks X. Were those goofy pics from last year? I thought they've been around longer. Maybe we're not even talking about the same goofy pics. The ones I'm talking about look like someone in a cheap ass gorilla costume that was repeatedly smashed in the face with a red hot skillet. So bad. As I've said before, I was groaning about how horrible they looked BEFORE i knew that meth head Dyer was involved. Yes, the SquatchDetective is good. I have noticed when the going gets tough between Kulls and Dyer, freezer boy sure does his best to implicate Steve. Their relationship is a weird one for sure. Dyer and him talk, they both say so. They both seem to hate each other, but both say they don't... Just weird. Like my neighbors ex-husband comes over three times a week to eat with his ex-wife and hubby (that she left him for)... Just don't get it."Biscardi is as shady as Rick" Oh come now RacerX! Lol. Biscardi is the epitome of sleaze. The jumpsuits, the low zipper with the gold chain in the chest hair, it's like he was a character written for some Miami Vice episode. I wouldn't trust that fool to help me cross the street.So is Kulls to blame for putting these masterminds together?
I'm not entirely sure Kulls is as innocent as he says. I'm not saying for sure he was more involved, but I think it's very possible. Read some of the blogs out there in the weeks after the 2008 hoax. He gets skewered. Of course it doesn't really matter because in bigfooting you get at least one mulligan, if not more.
Ok, I'll just tell what happened, as I believe it happened. I will not Claim this is FACT!!!! I Hard time telling Truth From Lies, but I spent Months on the phone with a few involved, trying to figure out Why things didn't add up. Biscardi was Adamant because He saw a BF, He paid 50k, and went on TV telling the world, Him, Dyer, and Matt (Who Risked His Job over the Real Deal = Not a Hoax..(He probably Had the Guards with the AR-15'S) Fox news would not Let anyone on, in a Major Press conference, Letting the world know Bigfoot exists, if it Doesn't...Not without Proof, that would make them Look Terrible!! Biscari was 100% sure, He was not Hoaxed, They Body was waiting to be Thawed for proof. I do not believe the story that they had 2 Little space heaters going all night, and Had to go to Wal-Mart to get bigger ones the next day, and wait more...Seriously? Tip the Freezer over, the whole block will come out in one piece, Sledge Hammer the Ice off..2 HOURS TOPS!!!!!!!!!! So why the Long Delay, What Happened During the Delay?? Yep, Here it comes, MIB Took it! How can I say that? Rick also said that, and that Movie in 2014 He made, will be all about it, you watch!How do I know they took it? Biscardi holds another press conference, days later,and says, after the Thawing, His Son called, and said "It's a Rubber Foot"HOLD ON....DIDN'T BISCARDI JUST SAY HE MEASURED THE FEET, AND HANDS, AND PAID 50K? AND WHAT HE TOUCHED WAS INDEED REAL!Look at the Pic of the Body in the Freezer, even if you don't believe it's real, IT IS 110% DIFFERENT LOOKING THAN THE MONKEY MASK THAT THEY SHOWED AFTER THE THAW....NOT EVEN CLOSE! SO THAT RUBBER MASK THAT THEY WERE GOING TO CONVINCE EVERYONE THEY SHOT BF? THEY WENT ON TV, TELLING THE WORLD THEY SHOT A BF WITH THAT MONKEY MASK, AND BISCARDI FELL FOR THAT?...FOR REAL....NOT A CHANCE!PART 2 COMING.
Part 2They took the Body, and Had Rick say that He made a Fake body to Hoax everybody. Biscardi played stupid and said that what He touched was real body parts from animals, but not a Real Bf..Yeah Right, what about that Rubber Foot you measured?? This "Fake Body" was then created in place of the one they took, and said to be the one that Rick & Matt Made, to Hoax everyone. Rick & Matt were Revered on Fox, as a Police officer, Injured in the Line of Duty, and Dyer, Security Guard, They made them out to be Very Credible, and Biscardi had his chance to Redeem Himself, that's why He was so Adamant, and paid 50k! I saw the Contract...I'll bet it's still online if someone Looks..?Why did they take the Body? The American People are not ready for something Like this. Rick/Biscardi ran to the News, Just Like any of us would, and that is not what you do with BF. You can't call the Cops or the Game Commission, and it gets covered up every time! (No I am not a Conspiracy Theorist, it HAPPENS!)And it's obvious you can't Run to the TV Stations. The do not want the American People knowing about it. They paid Rick and all involved off, signed NDA, Paid em Good too! Rick has made videos Lying about these Lies, to Look Like He's telling the Truth.Rick said, "The MIB don't seem to care about BF Anymore" That MEANS THEY CARED BEFORE!One of the Reasons Hank is taking so Long is because they don't want it to be a Major Shock when it comes out....Rick always thanks that Haters for Hating, Because it spreads the Word faster and Faster...I would have not heard about this, if it wasn't for Shawn Evidence.Rick has said over and over that the MIB would have taken Hank by now. He did everything Right this time by taking it to a guarded facility, documenting everything, etc. (I hope)I did wonder if the MIB had something to do with what was in "Shooting BF" or not? Rick seemed Mad, and told us a Bunch was going to be in it, Snot on Hank's face, and all! And Rick said we would all see the Movie May 1st on His site, Didn't happen? I said when this all started the MIB would take Hank, Just Like 2008...I don't think they will this time....I think Rick is going to pull this off.Well, That's it Guys! Be Nice!!
Finally! Damn DS, I am glad you finally came off it. Anxiously awaiting part 2. ( I think you are wrong, but glad you got it out there)
Doc, I've always tried to be nice. I still commend you for your tenacity, think you're a damned maniac, and your random capitalization STILL drives me nuts. But I think you're an all right guy. A kook, but OK.SO, if the gubbermint is or was behind the disappearance of the 2008 sasquatch, whats changed? Public opinion? THose pulling the big strings? I don't know. I am a full blood conspiracy theorist, but I do not believe a single word Dyer says. I want Sas to be proven, even by that fool would be great, but I just don't think he's telling an iota of truth. What better excuse than to blame the MIB, how do you disprove it? We all have a distrust of some sort of the gubbermint, granted some more than others, but this theory relies on that distrust. IF it went down like that, WHY in the world go through with the rubber body and pig carcass? Just walk away, no comment. It's a good conspiracy, but in the end it contains two of the most untrustworthy people in bigfootery. Dyer/Biscardi.
That story isn't believable Bc Fox News doesn't care about credibility, obviously
DS, you sure are a hoaxers dream. Your eagerness for confirmation and gullibility are just what the hoaxers need.
FYI:Did you know that the Frontiersman "Daniel Boone" Was the First person to Shoot a BF?Did you know "Yahoo" Means Bigfoot?
Does anyone remember that hoax Biscardi pulled off a few years ago? I'm pretty sure it was in 2008, right before or right after the Dyer's Georgia Bigfoot hoax. Biscardi claimed he was in contact with a woman who captured a Bigfoot and had it in a cage. Biscardi was then invited on to Coast to Coast AM for an interview. During the interview, he gave out a phone number where people could call and pay him money in advance to view the Bigfoot over a live internet feed on a given date.Cost to Coast AM did a show the night the Bigfoot was supposed to go live. Of course, Biscardi claimed he was hoaxed. He claimed the woman was mentally ill and didn't find out that she didn't have a Bigfoot until just before the images were supposed to be released.Coast to Coast flipped out and publicly berated Biscardi and asked that he refund everyone who payed to view the Bigfoot, which he said he would do.Just wondering: The pay-perview of the Biscardi hoax sounds awfully like the premium memberships that Dyer is offering with the 2013 hoax. I'm sure he ripped that idea off from Biscardi.
I remember that. I believe he even got booted off the air with Noory for being a scumbag. He claimed that if you were some of the first people to pay, you would get a live feed of it, or something. Both Biscardi, and Dyer attended the same school of hoaxing.
I talked to Biscardi about it. He said that This Lady was Not only Dead Adamant, But others confirmed it. There were other details He said that convinced Him she was telling the Truth, but I cant remember, Something about a near-by Indian Tribe that confirmed it, but don't quote me on that...The Lady didn't know about the PPV feed, He set that up, went in, and she Let it go. He was Ashamed for taking someone at their word, and said He would never do that again!I think it was 2004?
What? You believe that hoax too, DS?
Well thanks to those above, I though I would need some Tissues for posting that. BTW, My Random Caps, started when I became a Christian. I've seen others do it also, and I Laughed. I guess We have a bigger Appreciation of words, and tend to Capitalize all Nouns, Pro-Nouns, and General Words that show Expression. Sorry, I cant change that.aT lEaSt I dO nOt tYpE lIKe tHis aLl tHe TiMe
Really, MIB? My god... Dyer, and Biscardi are cut from the same cloth. Sleazy crooks, plain, and simple.DS, I am amazed. Do you actually believe men in black took the body? Don't take this the wrong way, but what the hell is wrong with you?MIB in the bigfoot world just doesn't add up to me. I can see it being plausible in the UFO phenomenon, because UFOs can be a threat to national security.So, when, not if, Dyer comes up with the 2013 excuse, you are going to believe whatever it is, I am guessing. You say you are 40/60 or whatever, but your belief in the 2008 charade is 100%, so it just seems to me that you want to believe, so you will believe.
My two cents........... I think Rick was always a little interested in Bigfoot. Not enough to actually go into the field and research but a passing interest. (He had a tow truck called Bigfoot Towing.) He and Matt were friends and probably started talking about bigfoot and if it was myth/fact. I believe in the debate they were looking things up on the net and found were groups were doing expeditions and they thought hey this would be a way to make easy money. They started making the videos. There was a backlash from people in the community because they came from no where claiming to be the best bigfoot trackers. From there it just became a war of words until they made the video saying that one had been killed and they were in possession of the body. I believe That Biscardi was 100% behind the rest. There are pictures of Biscardi beside the body. You see part of the fur sticking up and it has loose ice on it. There is no way that Biscardi didn't know it was a suit. Dyer claimed that their freezer was broken and Biscardi went and bought a new one. With all that said, I am with DS on this. I feel that something is a little different this time.
This whole damn hoax is just out of hand already. Put up, or shut up. Between this hoax, and the 2008 hoax, how many hoaxes were between? 2? Why the hell are people even considering this repeat hoaxer has any validity in his claims? Are you that blinded by your will to believe? The only reason this hoax has gotten to where it has is because of FBFB and their shoddy authentication. The two attempted hoaxes prior to this one, and after the Dyer/Biscardi sham, lacked the platform to go from, and this time around, Dyer saw FBFB as exactly that, a way to perpetuate this latest fraud.I do not blame most scientists from taking bigfoot seriously. Prior to the widespread use of the internet, even though your only chance of probably ever meeting another researcher was at conferences, the influx of "researchers", "armchair theorists", and "social researchers" has given this field the reputation of a leper colony. Too many people claiming such, and such with not a damn thing to show. Anecdotal evidence is fine, but if its all you have, don't expect any significant support.Truly, I hope bigfoots don't exist, because I fear what would happen, when all of the armchair researchers head to the woods upon a confirmation.
You know you really have something there. Without FBFB we all wouldn't be here right now. They were the ones who brought the tent video to our attention. They were the ones to claim its validity and they were the ones to give Dyer an award. I never gave the tent video a second look until FBFB were so overwhelmingly convinced and even then not so much. While I have no doubt they were duped strictly because they wanted to believe, Dyer could have never gotten as far as he has without them. As innocent as I believe they are in this hoax, I also believe they are very responsible for it. They also hooplahed the bejeezus out of the documentary, which most of us would have never have heard about until released to tv. To use your words, they were very much "armchair theorists" and they caused real damage by being so. In this field there is very little to no science and even less common sense and if those who seem to be at the head use hyperbole and unsupported hypothesis that sometimes seems to come out of thin air, it only makes sense that those who follow are even more content to discount their own senses in determining fact from whimsy. I do hope Bigfoot exists and I wouldn't worry about how they could be exploited by the armchair researchers because so far they are batting zero and I don't see that average going up even after a confirmation. Maybe if there ever is a real confirmation, those with an education, a background and responsible respectability will step in to squash the armchair buffoons. Until then Bigfoot is as safe as he ever was...if...he...ever....was.G.A
FBFB has got to know by now that Dyer got one over on him, and I think if they were to come out, admit they were fooled, it could be the death blow to this hoax. The backlash they received after the "Bigfoot or Bust" campaign really almost destroyed them, and if they follow this to its end, holding on to the hope that it is real, they will be done when it is revealed a hoax.
I agree, but they are in a quandary. Unless they have real proof to the contrary, they risk being wrong twice if you get my meaning. They have two options as I see it. One is become proactive in debunking this or two wait it out at which time they will either be vindicated or forever lumped in with the 2013 Rick Dyer hoax. Either way they are not in a good position and they only have themselves to blame.G.A
I wonder if at this point Musky is hoping Dyer just disappears so he can claim to have been fooled, a la Biscardi 2008
I believe the burning of his award is very telling. The end is near and it will not be in Rick Dyer`s favor.
Anon,Why do you think He burned the award?
Because he was in a drug induced rage, the judgement bending methamphetamines removed Dyer's fragile self control, VOILA. Instant tweaked freak out. Inhibitions are a good thing.
Diff anon but I think he did it because he knew FBFb waning support would fuel greater doubt in his story just when it needed a shot in the arm. In other words his luck ran out finally.
I`m not certain but I believe it might have been a sign of subconscious self loathing and guilt. The same applies to the sale of his Squatch mobile. Of course I could be way off base.
I thought it was because FB/FB and Noel cancelled the Interview, when Rick said there was a delay.
Yes, that was the cover excuse and it may be no more than that. It`s also possible that the reasons go deeper. Dyer`s a complicated human being.
It all goes to Rick's maturity. He acts like a spoiled toddler throwing a temper tantrum and gets emotional support and confirmation for doing so. Some family doctors recommend ignoring a child throwing a tantrum because they will eventually realize that behavior is not benefiting them and eventually stop. Obviously Dyer's mother did not subscribe to that treatment and probably treated tantrums with candy.G.A
Remember, I included the sale of the car.
DS, that is the most laughable explaination I've seen for the 2008 hoax. For starters it wasn't Bicardi's 50 grand, it was some guy named Letts that Biscardi talked into fronting the money. Second the armed guards with Ar-15's guarding the body when Biscardi saw it the first time is bull shit. That whole thing was made up by Dyer and Whitton.
When they went to deliver the body. Claimed black helicopters were following them and Ninja's attacked them. NINJAS!!LMFAO. Can you really believe that. NINJA'S. wtf .
Oh yeah, don't forget the brother-in-law they had come in and pretend to be a doctor and confirm the body. Sounds kinda familiar, kinda like Musky.
I didn't say it was Biscardi's money, I said He gave Him 50K, I know where the Money came from, He had to see the Body First. He gave Him the Money the 2nd time He flew out..I didn't include every Single detail in what I wrote.You're free to believe whatever you want.
So Whitton could Lose His Career and Pension, Oh, Ok?
And your point is? Whitton thought it was a big joke and wouldn't affect his career. He was on medical leave at the time this all happened. Biscardi was up on the podium at the press conference with pics that were clearly the suit, the mask in particular, claiming they were the real thing. That face pic was laughable, donkey teeth and a cow tongue shoved into the mouth. Biscardi was the one who coached Dyer on how to get the media coverage.
I'm sorry I can't hold this in any longer. Everyone feels the need to treat him with kid gloves and it just encourages the behavior. DS - You are god damn retarded. Never in my life have I encountered someone as ridiculous as you. Seriously, never. I don't know how else to say it. You will literally believe anything if it means BF could be real. It's a sickness. It is not normal to comprehend information the way you do. You should seek some type of help. I only pray you do not treat patients of any kind. Based on your level of comprehension and the belief you place in mythical stories, you could only hurt people. I could easily see you telling someone, oh not to worry, you don't need surgery to remove this tumor, just pray harder to Jesus and BF.It's just disgraceful. And you, GA, and anyone else can hate on me all you want, but its the truth. You have the mental capacity of a child. No logic, no reasoning, nothing. And if it wasn't mentioned earlier, you alluded to having all sorts of legitimate proof to justify your 2008 belief. And you know what you have? Nothing! Disgraceful. A joke. You really need to take a huge step back and grasp what is going on.Apologies for the harsh tone, but my god, it had to be said.
AD HOMINEM!!!You never addressed one point of mine that you disagree with, total attack on my character, You Sir, are a Name calling, Immature, and a waste of my time.
And you DS are a troll. I don't believe for a minute you have a Doctorate in anything unless its a Doctorate in retardation.
I continue trying to figure out how FBFB came across bootlegged footage from the movie just as they were leaving Toronto, and why they hadn't seen it sooner, like right after the lights went up. Who in the world was shooting the movie with a camera phone and then holding onto it for hours and hours afterward? And then...why did they drive out of their way to show it to Musky of all people?I think what may have happened was that Dyer got hold of the footage from the end of the movie from somebody...maybe even Matthews, after he complained to Matthews that no one was believing it. Dyer gets it to Musky so he can show it to FBFB and try to salvage the situation...Musky is the link to FBFB, and he calls the guys and says he has obtained pirated footage from the movie and it's amazing if you actually watch it frame by frame. But...it's super secret so you have to drive here to see it. So they do, and Musky convinces them it's the same creature he saw and that it's better than Patterson blah blah blah. But Musky is under "orders" to make sure nobody sees it so he can't turn it over to them...that's why they haven't shown anyone else and lamely claim they got a "letter" to destroy it. They were just embarrassed to say that Musky lured them with it and that they didn't actually take it to him.Anyone else make better sense of that very, very fishy sequence of events, where the FBFB guys were steaming mad about the movie then suddenly proclaimed it was better than Patterson??
Of course I am attacking your character, it is seriously flawed!! I have dissected every post you have ever written and proven you wrong with FACTS and you STILL don't get it. You constantly tell people to prove you wrong, we always do, and you avoid it! No one should waste anymore time on you. sadly it is people like you that keep people like Dyer going. There are times I wish I were a conman and all around bad person because, man, I could own you with 24 hours. I seriously encourage you to get help. You seem to be stunted in your ability to comprehend. It is very much like a child. It is not healthy.
Doc, you've sure stirred up a big heap a hornets now! I too think DS could be a trolling skeptic, that or the old boy is really a damn maniac. Lol. Anon isn't pulling any punches, but as harsh as it is, the is a kernel of truth behind it. Doc's mind is made up, nothing wrong with that, he uses sketchy logic to bend half truths into "facts". He is pretty funny, and resilient. I am glad there is but one Doc, if Dyer had a couple dozen like him we would be insane by now with the amount of hypocrisy that would be posted. Dyer in my opinion has no body. He would have been forgotten and or revealed LONG before now if it wasn't for today's social media keeping this scam artist in the spotlight. Today viral=$$$. Dyer is/was trying to cash in , but failed, so concocted the Team Tracker flunkies to milk a few more greenbacks. It really is a Ponzi scheme, maybe not money driven per say, but bullshit driven. More and more lies have to be made to cover the previous lies. Before he knew it dumbass Dyer was in too deep to turn back. This theory will prove itself true when the lies compound and Ricky must lie, delay, make excuse #458, AND to top the pyramid scheme off, dream up the big finale. People like DS and Team Tracker are just mortar for Rick's pyramid of bricks.
DS has been stuck at 60/40 for quite awhile now. You'd think that with even more inconsistencies and erratic behavior display that Dyer has exhibited, he`d be, at the least, 40/60 by now.
When will this all this nonsense STOP? DS is trolling and Dyer never had a thing. If this wasn't obvious to you before, it sure as hell is now. The turning point for all those who believed was the Movie itself...all down hill after. Dyer never delivered and has stonewalled ever since. Nail in the coffin was the announement of the delay of release on Aug 15.Move on folks. This is DEAD IN THE WATER.
Dyer has made so many claims, and has made good on not one of them regarding the revealing of evidence.Prepare to believe, because tonight, it is bigfoot, or bust. How many times can you go bust?What would be the most logical reason for the delays? When you take into account the previous hoaxes (should be enough), the many straight out lies he has been caught in such as 3 minutes of HD footage, reciepts, etc, and his child-like attacks on people who ask the "hard" questions, it doesn't take more than a 5th grade education to conclude it is another hoax, and he doesn't have a bigfoot body.He may have a body, but it sure as hell isn't a bigfoot. The "Gimli" photos have the hallmark of Dyer, and I believe the photo was to test the waters prior to the big reveal. The pictures were not received well, and the release date was postponed (big surprise).
Hoax has been proven
"We must admit that our favorite of ALL of the famous creatures is of course Bigfoot. I bet it's your favorite too. The Bigfoot that Rick Dyer confronted will be seen on your TV's soon during a major press conference" says F. Cali on the TT blog.Oh boy, I can't wait! I would love to meet the person who puts 2008 episode 2 on TV after the flop of episode 1.
Such Haters. You will see any day now. Rick isn't going to wait much longer after the 15th before He Reveals the Body to the entire World. The Conference is going to be bigger than Anything ever seen on Tv. When We are proven right, what are you Haters going to do?
Keep an eye out for the end of the world also. It's coming. Any day now...
the nice thing is we haters are anonymous, so if it is real and true we can just come out and say we supported him all along, and nobody will know any different. Win win for us. Now when its revealed that this was all a scam there are some TT members who are going to have to change their real names.
DS...You don`t wear anonymous well. Post as yourself.
I have no reason to post as "Anon"
The Caps gave You away. :)
Anon said: " so if it is real and true we can just come out and say we supported him all along, and nobody will know any different"That is being a total DISHONEST COWARD! You need to fess up, Apologize, and take what you have coming! I know several Haters, who said they will state, their Names, and Email, with a Formal apology for what they did!That would be Like me coming here if this turns out to be a Hoax, and saying that I never believed the whole time, and I Was just trolling all of you, Ha Ha! No, I will be the First one Here, taking what I deserve if I'm wrong!
lol...no DS...Anon 12:37
It would be dishonest to post as Anon...and another Lie to say it wasn't me, if I did! Someone copied my caps, its obvious I can take a bashing, posting as Anon does not make sense!
Gotcha...nothing malicious meant on my part...just rib`n ya a little. Peace.
But you already *took the delay bait* for the 15th and now it's open ended with NO RELEASE date in sight. So...how long are you going to wait now...months? Years?
DS is a plague on this board. He talks as nutty as Dyer, believes in a follows Dyer AND chased off Mata-Hari for good. in My book DS is also lying about being a doctor. Maybe if he got his doctorate in psycho I would believe it.
Again, another jealous hater, who can't have a mature debate, Like GA and a few there do!
Mata-Hari chased Herself off here, I didn't.
No she didn't you Uber Troll!!I just can't comprehend a 'Doctor' believing a liar like Dyer.Dyer hasn't given one ounce of proof.And when he gets cornered he turns to the 'Hate Game'!Remove your blinders DS and then you will see what Rick is all about.Unless you are just trolling for Rick which makes a lot of sense.
DS- u and GA can blow each other all day long and clog up this site with your retarded banter, but there is nothing mature about your view points, they are plain nuts. Mata did not chase herself away, you kept harassing her posts and obsessing about her till she quit over it. I have to agree, you are not adding anything positive here.
No need to rag on GA. He has always been helpful in these discussions. But I take serious umbrage in DS stating we cannot have a mature debate. We are consistently serving you factual information. I am talking about information that cannot be disputed by anyone, and you completely ignore it and instead continue to spew your theories. Theories which are so incredibly far-fetched and based in nothing but your blind belief in BF. We have admitted hoaxes you still believe in. It is ridiculous. So please do not get on someone's case for not being able to have a mature debate. Mature debates require both sides to digest factual information. You do nothing of the sort. You do not provide factual information, and you completely ignore it when it is given to you.
I have to agree, GA has been one of the Best posters here and has sometimes tried to keep things civil, which seems to bother people like anon 9:25. If this site becomes an elementary school recess break, not sure I would want to continue coming back. GA has also had some of the most intriguing posts and created some of the better debates. Lay off the GA man. DS on the other hand needs to go back and re read some of GAs posts
I'm reposting this because last night it got trapped behind all the comments about DS. Sorry for the repost but I was hoping to get some thoughts:I continue trying to figure out how FBFB came across bootlegged footage from the movie just as they were leaving Toronto, and why they hadn't seen it sooner, like right after the lights went up. Who in the world was shooting the movie with a camera phone and then holding onto it for hours and hours afterward? And then...why did they drive out of their way to show it to Musky of all people?I think what may have happened was that Dyer got hold of the footage from the end of the movie from somebody...maybe even Matthews, after he complained to Matthews that no one was believing it. Dyer gets it to Musky so he can show it to FBFB and try to salvage the situation...Musky is the link to FBFB, and he calls the guys and says he has obtained pirated footage from the movie and it's amazing if you actually watch it frame by frame. But...it's super secret so you have to drive here to see it.So they do, and Musky convinces them it's the same creature he saw and that it's better than Patterson blah blah blah. But Musky is under "orders" to make sure nobody sees it so he can't turn it over to them...that's why they haven't shown anyone else and lamely claim they got a "letter" to destroy it. They were just embarrassed to say that Musky lured them with it and that they didn't actually take it to him.Anyone else make better sense of that very, very fishy sequence of events, where the FBFB guys were steaming mad about the movie then suddenly proclaimed it was better than Patterson??
Someone from the fb/fb party had a camera in a pocket or purse at the film- I can't remember exactly. They were able to watch it later.Morgan Matthews showed Dyer the movie ending over a google hangout the day after the film- as far as I know that's the only part Dyer has seen.
Yes the whole FB/FB thing was/is very fishy. Remember when the tent video first came out? Fb/FB alluded that there was HD video they had personally seen, but if I remember right they had, but couldn't release as it was owned by Matthews...? Right? I can't remember shit, Dyers lies of a thousand tongues is addling my brain!!! I REALLY REALLY wish someone would sit down and research, verify and document a timeline and perhaps RacerX could/would post it so we (mainly I) could keep all this crap straight.
I didn't know Dyer said he saw it in a Hangout....THERE'S YOUR ANSWER. If that really happened then he recorded it and sent it to Musky to show the FBFB guys. I don't think anyone shot it in the movie...they just snapped that one partial photo...because the footage was so great that it compared to PGF, it would have been better than a crummy pirated cell phone video.
DS...Why are the tent pic Squatch and the movie stil pic so blatantly different?
DS? I wonder why DS is mum on real questions like this one ^^^. AND to throw yet another HARD question in the mix, how come the tent video Sasquatch and the movie still so different from the Mata Hari sanctioned released photo of Hank (Gimli the Dwarffoot)? 3 different characters of the supposed same figure. (Not to mention the entirely two different artists representations of Muskys visitation, AND the Dyer directed artist rendering of the kill)All different, all fake, all the time.Now Dyer, he has been the exact same from the beginning, a wife beating, tweaked out, lying, scamming hoaxer.
hmmm...let`s see...scores of discrepancies vs. zero tangible evidence. To all but TT`ers, this would be a no brainer.
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^^^ RacerX, PLEASE PLEASE don't let the 'taterhole' cancer get started over here! I am glad you nixed the nonsense "first" junk. Let's keep it real people, as real as a blog about fake bigfoot tracker can be... lol
Yup, very immature and stupid, I agree.
Thanks RacerX! I wish Shawn over at Evidence was as responsible, it used to be a great place to discuss and sometimes argue, but it was all in good fun. Real questions were asked, some answered, some never will. I hardly ever click over there now because it's become a wasteland of idiots, JREFers, and immature morons trying to convince each other they're funny.FAIL. But in a way it a good thing, BigfootEvidence is the playpen to corral all the riff raff, and here RacerX has swept out the flakes, kept a high standard and allowed real discussion to happen, even though lately the discussion has been a bit redundant. Thanks again X.
To anons theory, I do not recall MM attending any hangout with Dyer that was public. I may have missed it but I doubt it as it probably would have been discussed at length. Rick mentioned it but I took it as another lie. Supporting your theory, however, Morgan was quoted in the first night q&a (night 2 in Toronto Canada) that none of the hoaxes, er uh, actors including Rick specifically saw the film to that point. Go back and watch that q&a and the get ready to believe hangout from movie premier night for some belly laughs.
I heard Rick say that as well. I think it was another lie to cover up the pirating of the film. FB/FB stated on their page that they obtained footage from the movie. I think someone said Jeff recorded some of it.That post was later edited or removed.
I think its possible Dyer complained to MM so much that he showed him the ending on a private Hangout, Dyer recorded it, then Dyer got it to Musky.I don't see the FB guys stepping on their own glory IF they had the footage right after the film. They could have gotten everyone excited if they said right away how great the footage was instead of killing the buzz with their complaining review. No way they had anything to do with shooting it, so who else would have, and then sat on it? I say Dyer pirated it from a private viewing with MM and them sent it to Musky with strict orders not to transfer it to anyone else, just show it. FB had to say it was shot at the premiere or else they'd have implicated Dyer.
MM said in an interview that he would not give Rick a copy of the film because Dyer would post it to the internet.I was told "pirated copy" by one of the players.
I was saying in an earlier post we need a timeline to keep all this crap straight. Here is an awesome timeline from Cryptomundo on the 2008 Dyer/Biscardi hoax. http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/hoax-tl-08/We need to amend it to include the 2012/13 hoax and the hoaxes between. WOW, Dyer is a deadbeat. I just can't get over someone taking SO much time to dream this up, if he and his peers would work half as hard to find real work as working on perpetuating this poorly executed hoax, they would be doing well for themselves. Why sacm for pennies on the dollar? Is DyerMuskyFbFbCali that bad at running a hoax? It seems so.
It appears that Rick has taken down alot of his hangout videos in YouTube Bc I am having trouble finding them
Every image Dyer has provided has been made to look like the tent video, just sayin'. The first painting of him in his underwear with the Bigfoot standing in front of him, and then the Musky picture he had redone to have more facial hair. Plus the Lord of the Rings face if that's his doing too. Dyer seems to be proud of that Bigfoot face and wants everyone to believe that one, while Musky's portrait didn't have much mustache and neither does the face in the movie still. It's like Musky based his description on what he knew was coming with the documentary costume, while Dyer stayed stuck on the tent video which he made up on his own, and didn't have the doc costume anymore and figured it didn't matter much. They even argued about facial hair on the radio show...you can't agree if the body has a big mustache or a thin teenager mustache? Come on.I think both are mostly makeup and headpieces and that's why they don't match so well, having been shot at different times in different places.
I stepped away from the Bigfoot world for a few years, and I returned just at this hoax was starting up. I was quite silent about it at first, and just watched the circus from the side lines.I heard Dyers claims, and the lack of any evidence supporting them. I saw posts from SKs squatch detective blog, and various videos, and posts tearing dyers claims apart, and figured there was nothing to Dyers claims. The evidence supporting the hoax is abundant, whereas the evidence supporting Dyers claims is non-existent.To me, the logical conclusion, and the coup-de-grace came with the complete failure of Shooting Bigfoot. Dyer did not attend the premier of this movie, because he knew if he had, he would have been confronted with very difficult questions. Why else would he not attend the movie that would change the world? Well, besides the fact that he lied about what was in it.I have seen all of these hoaxing 101 jokers before, at least be more creative next time, and maybe you will have the interest of those who know stumps are stumps, and owls are owls.