Friday, July 19, 2013

Dyer Discussion- The Hoax


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  1. If you were about to release a body and had investors, one of the big things you would have going is PR. PR is the end all be all especially for something like the discovery of the century. You wouldn’t want people to think the guy who shot it was a lunatic scumbag, who now is claiming Bigfoot will eat your children and pissing on books that he lit on fire in his driveway. These statements and visuals made by Dyer and many like them are posted all over the web for anyone to view. You would want your quote un quote product to have a feel good maybe humbling effect and get people really excited about the new world we now live in. That is how we know there are no investors unless they are as dimwitted as Dyer himself. You have heard of spokesmen for products. They are chosen because they are likable and best suited to get the message that the producer wants to get across. If Dyer is that guy, what message do you suppose the investors are trying to convey? Dyers rants that he is now on a quest to kill all bigfoot because they kidnap and eat children only leads to people doubting everything else. It leads to little credibility. Even with a body, they will have people that will doubt just because of the lunacy coming from Rick’s mouth and have good reason. There may be 30% of Americans who believe in Bigfoot, but most of those are only casual believers and that means that 70% do not at all. If those 70% read or watch what Rick does and says, they are most likely not going to buy this no matter who confirms the body. As an investor you would be very wary of that and would have shut Rick up a long time ago. I have said all this before, but if there were investors, they sure are not taking very good care of their product. You may be thinking “well a Bigfoot body will sell itself regardless of the story of the man who shot him”. Well, being that this has always been a mythical creature in the eyes of the majority, that is not how that would likely pan out….. and Dyers 2008 hoax is partially to blame. This isn’t the first time people have been hoaxed and we are not all fools. Despite the few who believe without question and love themselves a good conspiracy, most people will look at all the facts and Dyer by just being himself and saying what he says, makes the whole believing Bigfoot is real, even with an authenticated body hard to swallow. Dyer has only hurt the very product he is trying to sell. Unless the dimwitted investors plan to always keep this as a circus side show, like the Minnesota Ice Man in which case they are leaving an ungodly amount of money on the tableif this is real. But if they do that than you know it never ever was.

    G.A

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    1. Agreed. No way the baby-eater monster rant would have come from the discoverer of a new species, or that said discoverer would dare leave the side of his new meal ticket after making such an ass of himself for fear that the "investors" would show the world his discovery as soon as he had left town.

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    2. Not that it matters, but I think you are off base. If the bigfoot were proved to be real, the side show that is Rick Dyer would be a second story at best. The real story would how be a bunch of loons (in the eyes of the larger public) were in the end, right. Then there would be the issue of what bigfoot means in terms of evolution, etc. In terms of the Dyer story, he might actually tern out to be sympathetic figure, as hard as if is to believe. Pages like this would only show how the bigfoot community itself doubted him.

      Of course this all make believe. But if we think in hypotheticals, I'll take my scenario.

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    3. That might be the result, but it's not something you would risk by exhibiting or allowing this kind of behavior.

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    4. There are things that will keep him from ever being seen as 'sympathetic'. For one thing...how many famous sympathetic people have shown their dicks peeing on the Internet?

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    5. By that reasoning, how many people are exposed to the type of attacks that are exhibited in the world of bigfooting? You could list some pretty vile things that have been said, and in the end all that would matter is that Dyer over came all the doubters.

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    6. Looks like Dick is going to the taterholin joint and with the big ass silly grin he's anticipating a good time.

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  2. Thanks Racer X for the new thread.

    What G.A. Said: ^^^

    { fiddle }

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  3. Well, I will say one thing...The past several months have been entertaining and I haven't spent a penny, unlike the poor sods who got suckered into buying memberships.

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    1. "A fool and his money will soon depart."
      Rick Dyer.

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  4. I predict Dick Ryder fantasizes that through his radio shows / web page that he has an audience of thousands / tens of thousands / hundreds of thousands, etc..

    I think it's SO funny that ( like we were talking about on the last thread ), the total audience for one of his shows is likely < 100 individuals. And that is being EX"TT"REMELY bullish on his viewership/audience.

    The best action when his broadcasts are running happens within the chat room. There are like 5 or 6 TT members + like 10-15 'guests'...and all the TT members are like "WOW, look at all the guests = haters". Dude dude, Rick, it's not that many people.

    Haha. You're not the conducter off a worldwide symphony.

    You are the lead vocalist in a misled, off-key, group of ghetto corner hangin', wine drinking, dust sniffing, street hustlers claiming to be the 2nd coming of Elvis.

    In other words: only crack heads and disillusioned people believe what you say.

    Cheers Mate,

    { fiddle }

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    1. Spot on fiddle.
      Getting my drink on folks, see ya tomorrow

      G.A

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    2. Heard that. I'm out as well.

      Be checkin' in when I resurface tomorrow afternoon. Can't wait to see all the updates from Vermont!

      By the time tomorrow afternoon rolls around, I'll bet Dick Ryder will have had at least two "Class B" encounters, a "Class A" encounter resulting in a near-2nd-bigfoot-homicide, PLUS a close encounter with those dreaded Zeti-Reticulans.

      Stay Up all ya'll Haters!

      { fiddle }

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    3. Awesome post, fiddle! I loved the: "you're not the conductor of a worldwide symphony."(LOL)

      What a delusional, little,little man, Ricky is...

      Vegas Rob

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  5. Dr. Miles Russell on the career of Piltdown Man hoaxer Charles Dawson:

    "one built upon deceit, sleight of hand, fraud and deception, the ultimate gain being international recognition"

    Seemed appropriate.

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    1. Introduction at the 2041 Bigfootery and Cabbage Patch Conference in Cleveland, Georgia:

      "And now we present Rick Dyer, a man who became as famous and influential in the world of anthropology as Charles Darwin...uh, I mean Charles Dawson..."

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  6. DS, this post is specifically for you. These were all posted a few threads back but I notice you did not respond to any of it. You keep saying we have no facts, well here are a few for you to try and debunk. Go for it, boss.

    FACT - Dyer promises 3 minutes of HD footage in movie. Did not happen.

    FACT - Dyer promises body will be released to coincide with movie. Did not happen.

    FACT - Dyer promises to release high def pictures, video and receipts for reefer truck. Did not happen.

    FACT - MM says he was attacked by man in suit and when asked if BF is real says he would like to think so. The world would be a better place. Also read as, I don't know, I have never seen one.

    FACT - Dyer has perpetrated this hoax before. In fact, 3 other hoaxes, though this one seems to be a spitting image of 2008.

    FACT - Dyer is a known conman and criminal.

    FACT - Not one person who is not associated with Dyer and his team have come forward as having seen the body.

    FACT - Despite signing NDA's Dyer's team of people seem to have talked endlessly about seeing the body. Yet anyone not affiliated with Dyer has not said a word.

    FACT- Dyer says the body was not embalmed.

    FACT - You cannot preserve a body long term without some form of embalming (with constant maintenance) or plastination.

    FACT- there is no open dumpster behind The Home Depot like Dyer stated. Only a closed system not accessible from the outside (This was confirmed by GA's post as well)

    FACT- Movie reviews from professional reviewers have stated movie is A Blair witch style movie. A movie about crazy footers and hoaxers. The movie includes crazy footers and a hoax. Makes sense Bc this is what the movie is about

    Let's start with these. Take them apart one by one and tell us how they are not the truth, DS. I encourage all the haters to add additional facts to this post.

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  7. Why even try to communicate with that idiot DS? He IS a LIAR himself....doctorate lol! He cant even put together a proper sentence. Anyways, I am sure he is lying about that, and look what he believes in even with glaring evidence!?

    We are talking about a guy who believes 2008 WAS REAL, even though Dyer himself said it was a hoax. He is mentally defunct and a waste of space on this board. You can call me a hate monger, whatever. IMO you are just as bad as Dyer.

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  8. I just feel DS has a big mouth. He keeps claiming no facts, and I came up with the above in 2 minutes a few days ago. All facts. He responds to every post with nonsense, yet that post he mysteriously passed over. So, I would like to see what stories he makes up this time. I feel sorry for him more than anything. To align yourself with someone like Rick Dyer just because you saw some blurry thing from behind and you convinced yourself it was a Bigfoot. That's sad to me.

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    1. Yeah, sad and a bit scary. How do people like this even function in the world?

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    2. Just because a guy believes in some wacky things doesn't make him non functional. There are people who believe in the New World Order and 9/11 conspiracies and get along in life OK. Yeah it is scary and sad in some respects.

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  9. Tomorrow morning will be like X-mas to me! Can't wait to wake up and see all of the COOL photo's/video's that will be coming out of Vermont! I'm sure it's going to be "EPIC!"

    Vegas Rob

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    1. I have a strange feeling that Dyer is going to claim either a close encounter, or the killing of another one of these child eating boogey men. Dyer has nowhere left to go but to make more outrageous claims. He isn't the brightest bulb, but even someone as dim whited as him can see that this hoax has burned out.

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    2. Vegas Rob,

      If you are as near exited as you describe, you need to get out more buddy. There's a lot to see in Vegas better than Dyer!

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    3. Get out more? Right now, Vegas is like living in an oven...I'd rather stay in.

      Vegas Rob

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  10. Having the man whose dog was murdered by Dyer claiming that the shooting was staged does not help Tinys story either. There is just an overabundance of facts for the hoax, and not a damn thing supporting the fact that it is real. True believers will believe, it is what they do.

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    1. I don't think his dog was "murdered", and that guy's store was questionable to say the least. There is a lot more damning evidence.

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    2. It is no more questionable than Dyers own claims.

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    3. Yeah, and everyone is questioning Dyer so that doesn't mean squat.

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  11. I'm going to sleep early to night in anticipation of tomorrows LIVE reports from Dick Ryders Vermont expedition too Vegas Rob!!! I can only hope his "brother" Frank loaned him some of the Bigfoot attracting Click Clack Keys, and a few bucks for some Ribs from the Wal-Mart. If Dick can bag a second one ya' think he'll name it Hank 2?

    Maybe he can borrow Franks magic Genie Bottle and fill that sucker up with some of that fine Vermont Maple syrup.

    Fingers Crossed and awaiting the latest "EPIC"

    AB

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  13. Why bother with all these expeditions if you have the holy grail as in a body??

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    1. Because Dyer has declared a new crusade, and the boogey men must be culled. Well, that and him not having a body.

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    2. The thing is I don't believe Dyer really believes that. He was just butt-hurt over Noel questioning him and canceling his radio show appearance.

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  14. Rick's Facebook page is back. A post form 15 hours ago shows his location as near Victoria, Australia.

    Rick Dyer shared a link.
    15 hours ago near Wodonga, Victoria

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    1. Wow, how about that DS?

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    2. Guess he is out to bag himself a Yowie

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    3. The only one I see is the new one he put up a few days ago.

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    4. This is his "fan" page and not his personal fb page. Different people like Frank Cali post things on it. I'm pretty sure Kim Little in Australia is one of those people.

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  15. It's been hot as hell up here in the north east! I had to drive the refer trick to VT just to give some relief for the fellas on the trip. I also brought a fresh batch of the Kush!

    Refer Addict

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    1. Now that's PHUNNY right there I tell you what!!!

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    2. Don't lose the refer receipt!

      Vegas Rob

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  16. Great, so now Dyer is delaying pictures of the Vermont expedition because of you haters. Giving out his phone number in Craigs List adds. Tell you what, I will apologize for the group to see if we can get Rick to release some info.

    Rick,

    I speak on behalf of the community in this blog. We are all very sorry that we have spewed our hate and now we are coming together to claim you the greatest bigfoot tracker in the world. We realize now that your attacks were only in self defense and they were well deserved. Please Master Tracker, find us worthy enough to view some of your evidence. While our pen is filled with hate, our hearts are filled with love for you.

    Yours Truly,

    BigfootTracker Blog

    I will be back this afternoon guys to watch you eating crow when the flood of info hits Rick's site.

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    1. hurr durr,is that you?

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    2. BS- You do NOT speak for me or this blog. If you want to apologize to Rick, use your own name. I do not apologize to Rick Dyer and I had nothing to do with any craiglist ad(s).
      Never ever use this blog name again please.
      Why the hell would Rick delay photos? I think he needs time to swipe some off the internet. He did that for his old Bigfoot Tracker site and his Dyer Films site.

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    3. Aw, c`mon RX...Can you really admonish a kid who worships at the feet of a purveyor of lies and deceit? Well, yes you should, but at the same time, we need to show a little pity.

      btw...this is the best blog on the net. :)

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  17. BS is just your average, every day troll, pay him no mind.

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  18. Hey Anon 721,

    Check the previous blog comments. Unlike you I am not just some nancy boy wannabe. I am a serious bigfoot researcher who has provided a lot of arguments that even GA admitted were hard to disprove. The only troll here is someone like you. To good to comment on content just want to belong to a group as bitter and as stupid as you.

    I will be back this evening if you care to join. I am going to challenge GA to a debate and we will see who comes out believing.

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    1. I`ve already seen your posts including your half-assed attempt to mimic DS. You`ve shown me nothing, twerp, and I will be there tonight to see GA bend you over.

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    2. I have never admitted any such thing. In my mind everything Bigfoot can at the very least be doubted easily and most attempts at proof are only speculative and very much a stretch of a wild imagination. What you don't get is that I don't have to disprove anything, but if you are offering proof you must show me proof, not a leaf with eyes or a story from a good ole boy out in the woods. I will take any challenge you want to throw my way, but please don't waste my time with nonsense. I won't stick around for that.

      G.A

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  19. Oh, and one more thing, "serious bigfoot researcher", I`ve had an up close and personal experience in the open with one of these creatures. It had a bum right leg. As it looked at me I got a flash understanding of the species. That`s an experience that you could only dream about.

    Anon 721

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  20. So by "flash understanding" do you mean it communicated or imparted it's knowledge upon you somehow? Please explain, thanks.

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  21. I do not ignore posts! I have to take on everybody at once...Sometimes I scroll up a hundred posts and see a comment, that I don't always respond to, But If I missed something, it was because I missed something, not because I couldn't answer it, what a Douchebag!!
    Today is my Mom's B-Day, so I will not be around, I might post from briefly from my phone. I will address your "Fact" post tomorrow.
    I can't believe the Haters posted fake stuff on Craig's List, with Rick's #...Desperation in the Highest! The Fact that Rick Dyer is the one who shot BF, and will come out with the Proof, Just cracks me up!!

    GA, Since you like Scenario's, Here's one.
    Let's say I make an Energy Drink, that I claim makes you have huge muscles too. I have had a few products in the past that I claimed got you huge muscles, but they didn't.
    But now I claim I honestly do have this product! I show a couple pics, and 5 people claim that they have tried this new product, and IT WORKED BIG TIME!
    People are going to be Suspicious, and Mock/Doubt me. And People are waiting and waiting for this product to hit the market.
    Chances are that I have to come out with some new Product!
    I spent a year Hyping it up, bragging it up, and bashing my competition, this will come out. The question is: Is it Real or not. Is it backed by Scientific Research. If so, I will be a Hero!

    Good Luck in the Debate tonight, Brother Squatch!

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    1. In the end you have to HAVE that product, not a bunch of hype good or bad. 5 people is not a good case study for anything even with amazing results. Results have to be proved to come from credible OUTSIDE sources (not the company itself with its own agenda) and a large group of test subjects so a reliable average can be garnered. The last thing they would want to do though while convincing a public that they have the real deal is give themselves a bad name via a spokesman. In the real world a stupid remark gets even CEO's fired. Think BP boss Tony Hayward.

      G.A

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    2. Think Paula Deen. Think Mel Gibson. Think Michal Richards. And the list goes on and on. Some of these people will never recover since the PR is so pervasive and offensive.

      G.A

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    3. What did Paula Dean say?

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    4. Look it up. Her empire is in ruins because of racist remarks and a couple of wishy washy youtube videos she made trying to apologize. There is more to the story, but it is as recent as the past couple of weeks.

      G.A

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    5. DS, you have ignored all logic and factual evidence during this entire debacle. You are a joke, but people seem to find you funny so they want you to stick around. You are the one everyone is laughing at, not with, but you don't get it. It's a shame.

      Anyway, when you go through that list, remember, these are facts. They have all been proven. They are not hypotheticals. Before you embarrass yourself further, keep that in mind.

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  22. Gee I wish I was a Gynecologist, I doubt anyone would Jack me, Ha!

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  23. Yah, after I submitted the post, I realized that statement needed clarification. The "understanding" was of a general sense. The immediate impression that I got was that it was primal and it`s expression was that it was indifferent to my being there.

    My immediate reaction was shock not fear as I sensed that the creature meant me no harm as long as I didn`t pose a threat.

    The full experience can be read on the bfro report...Ohio...Ashland...3 teenage boys.

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  24. This BS is a complete joke. This merry band of haters cause Dyer yet more delays. Hell, at this rate this blog can be used to change anything in the world since it already has the power to delay one of the biggest scientific discoveries in recent times. Maybe if we get a few more people, we can start electing presidents, and running economies.

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    1. Yup...I guess we ARE the new world order.

      I hereby nominate Racer X as President and GA as vice president.

      DS and BS will be the court jesters.

      Rick Dyer will be in prison.

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  25. DS, you are a moron. It really doesn't matter what facts you are presented with, so there is really no point in doing so. You will believe Tinys claims, no matter what. You believe 2008, that says it all. Go ahead, and say this is a character attack, because it is, and that I am a "douche bag", but that still doesn't change the FACT that you are a moron, and Tiny doesn't have a damn thing.

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  26. G.A., you are a person with TRUE honor and character. Your intelligence comes through your writing so eloquently. You get you points across tactfully and methodically. You always have PROOF to back up your facts. Thank you for all your contributions to this site.

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    1. Thanks guys. It's a pleasure.

      G.A

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    2. No problem G.A. It is nice to see someone like you take the helm in Racer X's absence. Keep up the good work. It's all about RATIONAL thinking folks.

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  27. You believe Rick's claims about 2008, But Hes Lying now? How do you determine when he's right or wrong? Must have something to do with being a Douchebag?

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      But Hes Lying now? How do you determine when he's right or wrong?"

      Fallacious reasoning and logic>>>

      You can't *Prove* Dyer is hoaxing because you can't prove a negative (ie, he doesn't have a body). The default position is that HE must PROVE that he has one..and so far he has NOT DONE SO. If you want to>>>ASSUME he isn't hoaxing this time..go for it! My position is that the CUMMULATIVE EFFECT of all the factors GA has pointed out (and more) *should* lead any reasonably intelligent person to conclude this is indeed a hoax. This is based on>>CIRUMSTANTIAL factors and isn't *formal* proof of a hoax. The ONLY way to *PROVE* this is hoax is for Dyer to admit it or prove he has a fake body. As long as Dyer stonewalls, there will be no way to formally *prove* he is hoaxing.
      *IF IT LOOKS LIKE A TURD..SMELLS LIKE A TURD...WALKS LIKE A TURD..TALKS LIKE A TURD>>>>>IT'S A TURD FOLKS!

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  28. DS, you would serve under a dictator quite well. Why don't you look into it? You could probably get a nice job as head of propaganda.

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  29. On my trip with the refer truck to VT, I decided to pick Random Car Wrap Guy (RCWG) to roll some fattys of Jamacian Red. Well, we were pretty toasted and plowed into a Bigfoot Rick was communicating with. Rick was pissed and through his new taterhole at me. Rick is now trying to take credit for killing the second Bigfoot! Ironically, it was the refer truck that did it. There should be an update on TT soon on the second Bigfoot killing.

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  30. This is classic hoax stuff, and what Dyer has going for him is that he's insane. So anything he does can be explained away as "he's insane but he does have a body." We've heard that for months now. If you want to do a hoax, act out like a desperate sociopath and your followers will say you're just being you, but there really is a body. Every lie, every swindle, every act of insanity is easily explained away! He has a body and it will be released on the 15th! He just says it will be delayed because he's upset with the haters! He just says kill all the Bigfoots because he's upset with Noel! He just grubs money from poor people because he's cheap! He just shows his dick on camera because he's an American original! Sick, sick, sick...

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  31. Here's what I find funny, last week DS was disappointed and coming toward the light due to Rick's delay (40-60). Add one obvious butthead (BS Bullshit Squatch) to the mix and he's ready to jump in line right behind him with the confidence of a football coach in possession of the other teams playbook... DS do you know what a troll is by chance?

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  32. I decided BS I'll save you your breath and energy. In my mind there are only two to three items that give me some hesitation on whether BF exists or not. They all come from video proof. Casts are nice, but we all know a good deal are faked and sometimes in nature a print can be smudged or two prints melded into one. Nature has a funny way of making us see things like faces etc that we are familiar with. Think clouds or rock formations. Ridge lines and meta tarsal breaks in casts, while intriguing can be faked by a good hoaxer and it was recently discovered a cast made from another cast has properties that mimick ridgelines. Hair samples even if it is thought to be an unknown species (which all attempts have been sloppy science) are only hair samples and not a Squatch. Eye witness accounts is only second hand info and if you are looking for a BF or are a little spooked you will see what you are looking for, especially the gullible. Think walking through a grave yard in the middle of the night with nerves on edge. Any sound can be a spook in your mind. Evolution has wired us this way as a defensive mechanism. It doesn't have to always be accurate as long as it kicks in when there is real danger.
    So to the three or so videos that make me scratch my head. The first is the PG film. With recent stabilization and going back to the original, removing all artifacts from copies made from copies, I find that footage pretty convincing. It is 1967 after all and if a costume an amazing well articulated one for that time period, but....The movie the Planet of the Apes was made the same year or maybe 68. Secondly Patterson and Gimmlin were out to shoot a movie about bigfoot and hoped to capture one on film. Pretty statistically amazing set of odds there if you ask me. The second one I like is te Freeman footage. However Freeman talking in the background seems a little staged. But they do look an awful lot like Patty and like PG, they are either real or they are not. Jeff Muldrum examined the foot prints and was fairly impressed even after a police detective found them to be a hoax. There are good articles on that. To me there has to be a good reason why you are in the vicinity with a running camera in the first place. If you are looking for a bigfoot, you automatically loose a little credibility for me. That is why I also like the campers with the Bigfoot waving his arms on the ridge. With all the kids and everything talking, it does not appear staged, however it could be. The last one I will throw out is the Provo Utah video from last year. It does not look like a bear to me and the setting and reactions of the kids videoing it, is fairly believable. Everyone of these could be fakes or misidentification. I only say to me, they are the most intriguing. Misidentification is probably the biggest culprit aside of hoaxers. Video is becoming less and less credible as valid proof though. The only thing that will convince me a 100% is an actual verified body, which is why we came here in the first place because a claim was made that there was. In any case BS anything you have to present as evidence I can easily put forth an argument that what you have is not proof. If I were to witness one myself and believe it, I would have to be so close to it that I could reach out and touch it. I live in a forest area and see elk and deer and bear all of the time and from the back and in low light they can all be deceiving, especially if you are Bigfoot minded. I'll still debate with you, but beware I come prepared.

    G.A

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    1. One good thing about the PG film is that it is either an unknown animal, or a man in a suit. There is no chance it is an optical illusion from a rock, stump, etc. A lot of people I have come across, for some reason, seem to think that if the PG film is proven to be a hoax, then BF does not exist, and that is simply not the case. I can't say for sure that bigfoot exists, because I have not had a personal experience of the phenomenon, or been shown evidence which is impeccable. I do believe there is something to the phenomenon, but what that is, I am not sure. In my opinion, bigfoot is not very believable to people because it is reportedly a biped, and closely resembles us. Humans like to think we are the beeskness, so the acceptance of something so similar is a problem of the human ego. Rick Dyer goes out to call the alleged monsters, and such, but I ask you, who is the real monster? The alleged creature who minds its own business, or the rampant crook who deceives, steals, lies, and verbally attacks people who question his frail stance?

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    2. Right LVX, the PG film is no illusion and it has that going for it. I find the muscle movement extremely intriguing especially for 1967. There has only been one other video even coming close to that one and that is the Freeman video. Both of these however could be fakes, but when I view them I believe they are EITHER incredible costumes OR I am actually looking at a real bigfoot. I am on the fence obviously if they actually exist or not. I want them to be real though at least as much as TT members and DS or BS. I have had this interest since a young boy and that is why, it would be nice if I and you and all the rest of us here are wrong and the miracle of miracles happens and Rick has a bigfoot body. Wanting something to be true and using that as a belief system is a very poor way to go through life though. So far everything in all media points to speculation which for me is ONLY a talking point to the subject.

      G.A

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    3. Speaking of video proof. I never thought the tent video was all that convincing. We are looking right into the face of this thing and I don't get the heebee jeebees that I believe I would get if this were real. I think It looks more like a suit then both PG or freeman. I can suspend disbelief for a second in those two films, but have a hard time with the tent video even way before I knew it was Rick's video. I guess it may be that I have built up a belief of what BF looks like which may be going against my own preachings, but I just don't get that sense. Even with the Provo video, when that thing stands up and you so those long arms at its side I get the wind knocked out of me for a second. Tent video, never made me feel that way.

      G.A

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    4. You can't prove a negative>>*THERE IS NO BF*.
      The default position is that the existence of BF has not been proven so far..which would take scientific DNA and provenance of that DNA relating to physical elements (preferably a body).
      No amount of testimonials...FILM...Photos... footprints... rise to the level of UNCONDITIONAL PROOF. They are classified as CONDITINAL evidence and may lend *support* the theory of the existence BF, but these aren't SUFFICIENT in and of themselves to prove the existence of this purported animal.
      Personally, I don't think they exist or CAN exist, given their size as a PRIMATE. Life in bitter cold WINTER in sub zero climates without the benefit of fire and sufficient food source seems to preclude the possibility of their existence. All this along with the fact >>NO BF BODY or PART of that body has EVER BEEN PRODUCED ....over 50 years of searching not withstanding.
      I rest my case.

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    5. Well I completely agree that there is zero proof positive evidence, but those videos have kept my interest. If Bigfoot does exist we don't know what it is including primate although everything leans that way obviously. If you don't even want to believe I think you are wasting your time on a bigfoot site, even one dedicated to hating a hoaxer. Our common ground other than despising Rick is that we have an interest in bigfoot. And we all have varying degrees of belief. I for one am hopeful but very skeptical. I don't believe, but it still makes life a little more interesting to think that such a thing couldn't exist. I live in the mountains of Colorado and you can walk for days and never see civilization. There are other states with even more forest land so I choose to let the mystery survive. I hurt no one and am mostly a closet bigfoot fan. Every point you made, I have made countless times. Until such proof it is only something fun to talk about.

      G.A

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    6. Preach on brother! Ever post is SPOT ON. G.A., what do you actually do for a living? I know you stated possibly you went to school for Psychology (hence all the reasoning and logic in your post). I think I read somewhere you had something to do with Home Depot stores. Are you a Corporate lawyer? I see you have your Father's writing ability.

      Me, I live in Southern Indiana, and work for the Largest auto manufacturer in the world. That is why I give my REAL name and profession. I do not think I have to worry about Dyer knocking on my door anytime soon. We are all in this fight together (except BS and DS). I also wanted to believe in the beginning, even gave Dyer the benefit of the doubt knowing all about his past hoaxes. I am a skeptic, I have to see and touch one up close to actually sway my skeptical opinion other wise. THERE ARE NO REAL FACTS to support an actual creature exists.

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  33. Dyers new blog thread claiming...

    (Stunning photo from Team Tracker Expedition #91)...is actually a print that can be purchased on-line. I know this for a fact as I considered buying it several months ago.

    Lies, Deception and deceit. The Dyer way.

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    1. I figured Dyer would make some sort of claim from this expedition, because his hoax is on life support, and its not looking good.

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    2. Do you have a link for this photo? It would make for a nice blog post.
      It's good to see so many people checking facts and discussing this hoax. Thanks one and all for visiting!

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    3. RX,sorry, no, I was browsing nature prints for my office and had a choice between this print or a signed and numbered Charles Vickery. I chose the latter. There are tens of thousands of available prints on-line and I don`t recall the printing company that listed this. If someone would spend the time and effort to search, they will find it.

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    4. I also think this is from a postcard. Here is a link to a photo of Smith Mountain lake...very similar look to Dyer's photo and may even be the same location. It's the *look* that tells me it's from a post card or photo on line.

      http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8532/8456236645_d0536f8c1a_z.jpg

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    5. Smith mountain lake is my lake. Have a house oat there. Beautiful place. Lemme go look at his photo

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    6. Dyer's photo>>

      http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9dHgWp0VqTU/UeqZ_o4MdwI/AAAAAAAADbs/2KtQub2aR2k/s1600/vt+night+fall.jpg

      Smith Mountain photo>>
      http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8532/8456236645_d0536f8c1a_z.jpg

      Are the LEAVES on the tree the same? Looks like it on one of the trees far left on the Smith Lake shot.

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  34. Video posted...of Sands shooting 'Big Jake'.

    I actually hope Dyer IS in Vermont. It would prove that he doesn't have a body since he's so paranoid about it. He'd never be lost on a river 3,000 miles away on the chance the story came out without him.

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    1. We really don't need more proof that he doesn't have the body. Most people who believe he doesn't have a body, don't need to be shown anything else, and those who do believe he has a body will believe no matter what.

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  35. Any thoughts of expanding this blog once the inevitable collapse of this current hoax? There seems to be some intelligent people here, and provided the right platform, I think it could be very insightful. If so, just don't let it degenerate into what the bigfoot evidence blog has become.

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    1. The individuals on these two faux expos, are not scientists, they are not avid researchers. They are wanna be Bigfooters. They have no equipment, only what Dyeria has told them, which is all B.S. Have you noticed there is no sigh of Dyeria himself? If Dyeria is so good, then why are there only 2 team tweakers in VT, and 3 or less tweakers in the swamps of south Arkansas? I almost, feel bad for the idiots that went to South Arkansas, the heat and humidity is so bad in that part of the country, even the locals are not stupid enough to go out there this time of year.

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  36. See what happens when we apologize as a group? Within a couple of hours there are a flood of informative posts on Dyer's blog about the expedition. You see, all it takes is extending the olive branch and Rick will accomodate. You can see it in his eyes on his videos how much he wants us all to come together to witness the greatest discovery ever. We are with you in spirit Rick!

    Be back later, they are running a Good Times marathon.

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    1. Ha ha, now we know you are a troll. I say keep it up. It brought life back to our been there done that discussion. Rick has ceased to amaze us, so we rely on people who believe to bring back that majic.

      G.A

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    2. Good times indeed.

      G.A

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    3. Keep dreaming. Maybe one day, if you keep giving Dyer money, and love, he will notice you.

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    4. That`s correct, when he sees BS`s and DS`s posts he thinks...$399.00 + $399.00

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    5. Dyeria doesn't give two shits about the Bigfoot community. He has sent his team tweaker members out to do his dirty work. WOW 2 people in VT and 2 people in the heat and humidity that is Boggy Creek this time of year. Dyeria isn't even on either of them. These are nothing more than glorified camping trips. There is no research, there is no night time hunting, it is all B.S. Dyeria's team of tweakers is a laughing stock. He claims that Cali the douche and Dallas saw a Bigfoot on Mt. Charleston, the only thing Cali saw was the inside of an emergency room, because the dumb ass that is Dyeria and the blind sheep who believe didn't account for low landers going into a high elevation area, where all kinds of health dangers await when you are not prepared. I would imagine we will see some trumped up evidence out of these 2 faux camping trips, because that is how Dyeria operates.

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    6. Something will come out of these trips, because with the approach of the delayed date, Dyer has nothing, and he really needs to keep peoples minds off of the obvious. Having people debate the validity of something from one of these 2 "invesitgations" might keep people off the fact that he doesn't have a body, at least for a day, or two.

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  37. Guys we can post comments on ricks blog again!!!!!!

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  38. Let's stay here...

    All we do is raise his hits which he brags about,

    AND

    he reads the comments over here.

    Don't feed the beast!

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  39. I agree...unless u want to do some of those repeating 'd' posts they love over there.

    Plus we have Jill!

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  40. Yeah you all should know better. That is a savory cookie jar I just can't ignore. I'll be right back

    G.A

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  41. BS just posted a love note to Dyer on his blog asking him how big Hank`s dick is. I swear to god. LOL

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    1. Whoa, GA, You might want to steer clear of this dudess.

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    2. Looks to me like he enjoys his time in the barrel.

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    3. That's a good question. After all, we should know these things especially if they are eating our children. If Hank is Hung like a Horse, he may soon be after our women too.

      G.A

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  42. I am just curious. Why would anyone even visit, let alone post on his site and give him the hits/attention he wants?

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    1. I agree, Jill, Racer X has done more work to expose the Dyer hoax than anyone else. I`d rather give him the business.

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  43. Hi Jill,

    Please don't take this personally but is your picture clipped off a hooter website? I can't imagine there is someone looking like that on a bigfoot website. If not, please disregard and welcome aboard!

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    1. Never worked there, I am actually a teacher. And what do looks have to do with the fact I like the subject of bigfoot anyways? This is me and I don't care who knows because I don't see the point in posting anon when I'd say it to someone's face as well.

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  44. Hi Guys,

    Just an update, I have asked a question to Rick on his site and am awaiting an answer. What I get back will be my ace in the hole for the debate with GA so am waiting on Rick to respond.

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    1. You have nothing man. Just ask me. I will at least give you an honest answer.
      As for those wanting me to stay off of Ricks site, I feel there are certain posts of his that need to be addressed directly to his face. I'm not afraid that I may be in no mans land over there. It's not like I am taking food out of RacerX's mouth and putting it into Ricks and I am sure Racer doesn't mind.

      G.A

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  45. Hey Rick if your reading this just to let you know your a cocaine eating wife beating ass muncher.

    Have a real good day now ya hear.....boy.

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  46. Prediction: rick isn't getting enough attention( which is why he opened comments on his site) so he will do a show about bigfoot reeall soon. Even though he said no more radio shows on bigfoot. Almost like he lies or something

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  47. Looks like the evidence is piling up. Another person has seen the body. Wonder if it is DS?

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    1. DS? Hell I thought it would have been you! Lol. So are you are platinum member BS?

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  48. Well peeps, Over at Dyer's blog he says 'someone' else has seen the body. ALSO a video will be posted (for Platinum members ONLY) So.... WHo do you think it was this time? I am thinking it was Dyer's travel agent, made a deal for plane tickets to Vermont.

    I wonder if the said video will be the viewer telling what he or she saw? I know it wouldn't be a video of the body, so I am betting a Q&A with the preconceived and reviewed/rehearsed questions answered by the viewer.

    Why did a viewing take place when the Team Tracker faction is split up over the country???

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    1. What better time really. It will probably be someone no one has heard of so it's an easy one off hoaxcapade. At this rate there should be at least a half dozen nobodys to have seen the corpse by Christmas. Slow down Rick, you don't want us to get burnt out on all of this exposure.

      G.A

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    2. Agreed on it being a 'regular joe'.

      As for Rick slowing down, and exposure, insert Rick's book extinguisher exposure/BS's genital sighting joke here. --->

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    3. A Bigfoot, a rabbi and Rick Dyer walks into a bar. Rick says to the rabbi I slept with my wife before I married her and I feel so guilty, then turns to Bigfoot and asks. "What about you?" The Bigfoot goes, I don't know..... what was your wifes maiden name?
      ba dum dum.

      I'll be here all the week.

      G.A

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  49. By the way GA in response to your comment above, my bigfoot sighting involved something regarding the bigfoot genitals and want to see if Rick concurs.

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    1. That's a precarious position to put yourself in. Is your question whether or not bigfoot is circumcised or if he wears a cup while working out? I can imagine it to be a dangerous activity just navigating a downed tree being hung like Hank. In all honesty, unless you asked him for a dick pic, I think it is a good question. Can't wait for his response.

      G.A

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    2. Back in February Rick spoke about it on his radio show. He said it was 18 inches and he believes "it" came out like a dog's from the pressure when it was shot. Musky also commented that it was "definitely male." Hope it is more info than that or I will call bullshit. Some of us have been following this as TT members (or former) for a long time and can confidently recite numerous first hand inconsistencies, lies, and just stick around to make sure Rick gets what is deserved. I've seen him bilk retired people out of their money to go be part of watching history based on Rick's word. For that I will never forgive him. The guy would probably sell his own mother and swears on his kids lives over a lie (probably why he can't back down now). He is a terrible human being and deserves the support of no one. He is no hero. He is a thief plain and simple.

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    3. I concur and glad to have you aboard as a former TT member. You can prove very useful to us in some basic Q&A. I think anatomy questions like you have are an ideal approach at cornering him into his lies. Hope you took good notes, because he is notorious for denying what he said even if it is caught on tape. Glad to have you here.

      G.A

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    4. I've been around here since the movie premier and a regular anon contributor. I never really believed Rick (50/50 was my top mark as I kept score tabs with another follower), though I found myself wishing very much it would be proven (admitted confirmation bias desire even as we traveled to the premier). I almost religiously watched Rick's shows and found him to be a human being I simply could barely stand to listen to. He often reminded me of Jim Jones and I've pointed that out often. Increasingly shows were about the 7 haters and inconsistent scraps on Hank. Eventually I paid 5$ to be a silver member (there's your clue Ricky) to possibly get a first glimpse (yes I got robbed even a 5 bucks). Anyhow, I continued to watch the shows and even participate in the hangouts/chat, but, found Rick so tiring as a human being I eventually stopped watching and came here for news instead. X kept pointing out summary inconsistencies I caught myself and several that I didn't. As I said above the dozens of inconsistencies that came out premier night were just too much and Rick made a "hater" (by his definition)out of me. I have very good first-hand recollection of the February March April time-frame as I was following very closely. If most of the non haters followed as close as I have they too would know what Rick is all about and likely lose the smug righteous stance behind the pud that is Rick Dyer. When it is revealed this is a hoax please all remember that he swore on his kids. Never forget that FACT.

      I suggest this guy for a breath of fresh air on bigfoot: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9dHgWp0VqTU/UeqZ_o4MdwI/AAAAAAAADbs/2KtQub2aR2k/s1600/vt+night+fall.jpg

      Seemingly nice guy and even he is sick of waiting for Rick.

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    5. ooops:

      http://www.youtube.com/user/BigfootWeekly

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    6. Yeah is that Vic? He is a nice guy and clear headed. It's funny because for a moment a couple of days ago I thought Craig Phillips, Ricks new security guard was this guy and I was so disappointed. I thought they looked alike and was about to call BS, but thankfully I was wrong.

      G.A

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    7. +1 on Vic. Love his approach! He is like the antidote for Dyeritus.

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    8. I'm pretty sure (80/20) Vic used to participate (be on camera) in the hangouts when I was there back in Feb'ish. BTW

      -TT 12Step

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  50. Just like we all thought, the clown king is NOT in Vermont! Only distant obscure photo's/video's...what a joke!

    Dyer is falling fast and hard. At this rate he'll be left with just a handful of dedicated, low-brow zombies. (And folks, this doesn't help Ricky much, these kind of followers are not usually loaded with what Dyer needs...cold, hard cash!).

    I still believe that Dyer is crazy enough and desperate enough to up the ante and leave us in a "blaze of glory."

    We haven't seen the end of him yet...have your popcorn ready!

    Vegas Rob



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